cribmaster Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 hello all i have a question i have been out with the hmr useing blue tips and when i fired i herd a little puff and found the tip stuck in barrel had to use a barrel cleaning rod to remove it went out again had bunny bang in sight 85 yards missed and again and again did not even see a puff around where i was aiming another bunny same as before bang on do you think it could be the amo or has anybody had the same ? thanks ps i normaly hit what i shoot at gun is cz452 style 16 inch thanks chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggy011983 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I think the easiest thing to do is fire a few shots at a target during the day. If they are inconsistent then look at different ammo. My guess is after putting rod through its cleaned the bore our something and now its out of sight, either that our dodgy batch of ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I'm struggling to see how the blue tip managed to stay in the barrel, but the remainder of the bullet got past it... Could you elaborate a little... Did you mean that the entire bullet needed extracting? If so, you've experienced a squib load - a round which doesn't contain enough powder to propel the bullet out of the barrel. If that's the case, I'd not touch that batch and take it back to the manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cribmaster Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 the whole bullit end was there and took some shifting there was some powder left in case as poured it out and put a match to it to see if it was live and it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Heard a little "PUFF" - bullet wedged in barrel - unburnt powder - sounds like damp to me. strange you hear a puff/pop like noise but say there is powder, tells me all is ok from the manufactures they have done there bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 I'm not sure if it is related but you might like to have a look at this thread: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/184495-close-call-with-the-17hmr/ I was in a gun shop yesterday and was talking about this and they suggested that we should keep all ammunition that is like this and contact the manufacturer with a complaint as it seems to be a bit more common than was originally suspected. Did the case(s) that failed to fire have any cracks or fractures down the neck? If so check for these "fractures in the necks" in the rest of the batch of ammunition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 This seems to be getting reported more and more! There are a lot of HMR out there so this may just be a numbers game, but there are without doubt far more .22lr out there, and you seldom hear of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cribmaster Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) thanks i will check for any cracks my 22lr amo has never had any problems i have one box left to try and will be buying some more in the week there all kept in safe but may have got cold ?thanks to the man above for the link i now see its a small problem a few others have had puts my mind at rest a little now Edited November 2, 2011 by cribmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 it never happened to my 17 but twice now i have had to take a bullet out of my mates barrel. not sure what breed of ammo he was using. one thing i noticed when i had the 17 was i had a lot of missfires with winchester ammo, 2-3 per hundred maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmerfudd Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 The same happened to me with blue tips,pulled trigger nothing re-cycled another round but luckily for me it would not enter the breech.I then found spent case with a good strike and powder in the case,aimed lamp down barrel to find blockage.....here endeth night's lamping!I have also recently found shot cases with splits in the collar but that's another tale on the stalking directory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cribmaster Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 thanks all for you help **** law shotgun now playing up put a new locking block in and now will only fire once stripped it down rebuilt still no luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cribmaster Posted November 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 hi all update have been to local gun shop and the man said he has had a few makes with this problem he has told me to store amo points/tips upwards and see if that works (will give it a bash) chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 hi all update have been to local gun shop and the man said he has had a few makes with this problem he has told me to store amo points/tips upwards and see if that works (will give it a bash) chris He was joking right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotland rifles Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I'm not sure if it is related but you might like to have a look at this thread: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/184495-close-call-with-the-17hmr/ I was in a gun shop yesterday and was talking about this and they suggested that we should keep all ammunition that is like this and contact the manufacturer with a complaint as it seems to be a bit more common than was originally suspected. Did the case(s) that failed to fire have any cracks or fractures down the neck? If so check for these "fractures in the necks" in the rest of the batch of ammunition? I sent Hornady a email years ago, im still waiting, had this happen to me on a shoot one night with a mate, fut, opened the bolt found that all that went off was the primer in the rim of the case, the head was about 3" up the barrel, not happy, so i removed the head of another round and used it to get the head out of the barrel (not advised if you have any sense, ) i'm dense but i know my way around bullets and rifles, it worked, bored the barrel checked for damage...nil carried on shooting no bother. so don't expect a reply from them or Edgar brothers. bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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