Chr15j Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Hi all, I am still hankering for a new scope and none seem to have all the features I want in the price bracket I am working with. How do you guys rate illuminated reticules? I think it would be a good idea for low light/night shooting but I would like other people's opinions as to whether a good idea or not, FYI it's going in my .22 cz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 If you don't like or want it on turn it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 It's more this feature or loose out on mag or pa or lense size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12borejimbo Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 What scope are you thinking of getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Unsure but am intrigued by the BSA sweet 22 that some shops are selling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 For that money get a second hand Hawke Sidewinder 30 IR and have all options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 For that money get a second hand Hawke Sidewinder 30 IR and have all options How much and where from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Try putting a wanted section on here someone might have one or try the bay or do a search see if you can find some unsold ones advertised. A MTC scope would fit the bill too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Unsure but am intrigued by the BSA sweet 22 that some shops are selling i might be wrong but aren't they designed for high velocity .22 rounds? i'm guessing you'll be using subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Yes and I don't know re BSA scope and bullet speed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 IMO IRs are a waste of time and money. They are invariably too bright. They look fine in good light against a drab background, but in low light or in lamplight they overwhelm the image, even on their lowest setting. I think you're better off with high resolution optics and high light transmission. But these cost. IRs on some top-end European scopes might be a different matter, but if you can't run to that sort of glass with a plain reticle you certainly won't be looking at one that has IR. I guess you'll be rabbit shooting. I shoot rabbits at 80 yds with my .22 with the lamp dimmed as low as I can get away with while still identifying the target and I've never had any difficulty placing the reticle. Rabbits show up pale in red or white light. I'd go for the clearest brightest glass you can on your budget and don't waste any of it on IR. A plain uncluttered duplex reticle is as good as any for lamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 I've always found illuminated reticles to be pretty much a gimmick. When shooting in low light conditions your eyes become accustomed. Illuminated reticles drown the image even on the lowest setting. As mentioned above go for better glass instead of more attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Helpful advice on the ir guys, thanks. Does anyone else have any comments on the sweet .22? I quite like the idea of dialing the range and aiming dead on(when time allows). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I honestly have never heard a good thing said about the BSA Sweet scope range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I honestly have never heard a good thing said about the BSA Sweet scope range Have you heard anything bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 IMO IRs are a waste of time and money. They are invariably too bright. They look fine in good light against a drab background, but in low light or in lamplight they overwhelm the image, even on their lowest setting. I've a Hawke on my 22 with IR, & find it excellent on the lowest settings..1-2-3, depending on light conditions, Why it has settings that go up to 12, I don't know. As said above, the intensity of the light on the higher settings just takes over, & you cannot see the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 they are cheaply made, poor quality optics. do a search on here or on google and you will find quite a few stories of people problems with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 AS far as IL rets go you will certianly see the difference between something like a swaro and a hawk, bsa or simmons but then your looking at another 0 on the price tag. I have a Simmons with illuminated ret and also a swaro Z4i the difference is light years, i had a IOR with an Illuminated ret wich gave up the ghost wich i replaced because i missed the advantsge of the red dot,which is variable to the point you cannot see it in daylight but can when its dark. Very good for Quick Target Acquisition compared to scopes without If you are not sure try and go out with someone who has one and make your own mind up after having experience it yourself 1st Some folk like um and some folk dont simple. For me i would miss mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Unsure but am intrigued by the BSA sweet 22 that some shops are selling The blurb makes it sound brilliantly simple, I had one, Briefly, The bullet drop turret adjustments are calculated for normal or HV rounds, It's no use for Subs, and the one I had wouldn't zero, my RFD changed it as he thought it was faulty. Edited November 4, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Ok I think I will drop the BSA. I think I would get benefit from the ir The only other question is AO scopes. My cz currently has a WTC with AO but I have never been able to get the range markers to match up with real life. Is this common or should I be able to accurately range find? It's a 4-12x44 and I try to range find on max mag. Is this right? I know I sound like a newbie but ive been shooting for over 15 years and had this specific scope for over 12 and I'm a pretty good shot! I just want to make sure I'm getting the best from my kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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