joshnathan Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Hello All, I want to mount my first safe however, i have a few questions about location and drilling. 1) does it have to be on the floor or can it be slightly off the floor? 2) if it has to be on the floor should i get rid of the skirting behind it so its flush? 3) the bolts supplied are for brick which is what i will be mounting it too, however, the rawplug says 12 and i'm not sure what drill bit to use. Could someone give me a bit of information regarding this. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 It can be off the floor. Don't cut the skirting board away just get a length of 3x2(or whatever height your skirting is) and make a wooden plinth for it to sit onto then put 6 bolts into brick and maybe even a few big screws in the wood, that's what I done,and fao was more than happy, I think it means it's a 12mm so it would be a 12mm masonry drill bit someone may correct me if that bits wrong hope that helps atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 1. No, it can be off the floor, but looks better with something underneath it 2. I sat mine on top of the skirting board so it's completely flush with the wall, put 4 bricks under it and put a wood frame round them so it looks nice. 3. Use whatever drill is the same dia. as the rawl bolt bodies (just look at them together by eye) so they are a nice fit when inseted into the wall. Tighten up slowly until nice and secure, take off nuts and washers, mount cabinet carefully over the threaded ends and re-fasten nuts and washers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 FEO will want to make sure the safe is secure and can't be pulled off the wall. He/she will give it a good tug to make sure. No problem with it being off the floor. It needs to be flush to the wall so some little scrote can't get a pry bar into any gap between the safe and the wall. You could put a layer of sealant on the joint but it isn't necessary as long as it is secure. The size drill is the same as the Rawlbolt. Take it easy when you drill the hole as it is easy to enlarge the hole by wiggling the drill bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy198712 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 what bolts are you using? i got mine from a builders shop and it said on the packet what size hole to drill.... mine was a 14mm hole. took ages to put the 6 in! failing that, as has been said just the same size as the plug part, so it'll slide in with a little resistance best bet is to email your FAO mine were very helpful in postion and if you follow their instructions, you cant really go wrong as their the ones checking it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) I also have mine mounted off the floor with nothing underneath it , I chose not to use rawl plugs but m10 studs with a resin anchor system from screw fix for around £10 lots easier and more effective. The bolts when/if you move can be grinded down and painted over. I spent many hours trying to get a decent fix with rawl bolts and won't use them again after using this. Thier is enough for two cabinets in there too http://m.screwfix.com/details.htm?id=33554 Edited November 16, 2011 by mpk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I also have mine mounted off the floor with nothing underneath it , I chose not to use rawl plugs but m10 studs with a resin anchor system from screw fix for around £10 lots easier and more effective. The bolts when/if you move can be grinded down and painted over. I spent many hours trying to get a decent fix with rawl bolts and won't use them again after using this. Thier is enough for two cabinets in there too http://m.screwfix.com/details.htm?id=33554 I use Chem Fix, for 99% of my job these days. I am used to drilling holes and have very good kit to do the job,However with the shell type/raw bolt fixing any run off with the drill will shunt the whole job off, and with 4/6 fixing holes in a cabinet the chem fix will be a little more forgiving. TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have one bricked in and bolted behind and one over the skirting bolted, important thing is to place the safe were it is not easy to see especially from outside and in a location were application of a bar to jemmy it would be too hard. Adding weight to a safe can also be good if two guys cannot carry it then it has to be opened on site the way i figure it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnathan Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 There is no number on the bolts only a 12 on the plugs. Hope this help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard.Hosgood Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) Top tip is to use a drill bit the next size down, so for example a 13mm bit for a 14mm hole, as you will not drill straight and the hole will be bigger than the bit in softer materials - and its easier to increase the diameter than decrease! I used some of these - http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws%20&%20Fixings/Shield%20Anchors/Shield%20Anchor%20Loose%20Bolt/d90/sd2792/p97063 Worked no problem on the crumbly cob wall which I attached my safe to, I can hang and bounce off it with my foot in the bottom with door open and it wont move a smidgen! Im 16 stone, and the FEO was a small slim female so was more than happy with its fitting! Edited November 16, 2011 by Richard.Hosgood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnathan Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Just took a photo of what i have... Should i go buy something else for a brick wall mounting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) Another thing to take into consideration when mounting with a gap underneath... it would be very easy to get a car jack under it. I found this out literally by mistake. I mounted my cabinet on top of skirting. One day after changing wheel on car, chucked the hydraulic trolley jack in the cupboard and it slid straight under the cabinet...and it got me thinking. I now have an ammo safe under the cabinet to fill the gap. Edited November 16, 2011 by huffhuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Just took a photo of what i have... Should i go buy something else for a brick wall mounting? Yes they will not hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Mines got 6 bolts and welded to a girder. If you want it, bring a gas axe. Shame as I can't upgrade now, never mind 5 gun should be enough to last me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 My bolts was something like these if link works http://m.screwfix.com/details.htm?id=20323 Screwfix code 20323 If that's any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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