remmyboy Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 could you get a 6.5x55 on your ticket just for fox and not deer . as i have very open space to shoot foxs at long ranges . but very little deer about plus the land owner will not let deer be shot on here cheers dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Doubt it, they would probibily want you to use a .22cf, or at most a .243. However if you said you were going to be buying days stalking that may be different, but if you have little or no centerfire experience they may want you to have a .22-250 or something like that which would be good to 400 yards ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Unlikely, the FLO would most likely come back at you with "why not get closer to the fox!" it's a valid point. Besides 6.5s go straight through foxes (admittedly leaving a big hole), I've shot a few with mine but i would never use it specifically for Foxing, a .243 would make a better choice for long range with a nice varmint BT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pendle Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) one guy i know localy has a Blazer 6.5X55 for foxing and can do this when not stalking. one rifle does it all Edited November 16, 2011 by pendle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have .308 on my ticket for fox as well as deer . I talked to my flo and told him that I didnt want to buy another rifle just for shooting foxes . But then I do live in a county that understands the needs of shooting men . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 If you can't shoot deer then its unlikely to get a 6.5 apart from being unnecessary. Really you are looking at .22cf's possibly .243 if you can talk the talk but really if you don't have deer it will depend to a lot of forces on experience. Personally for foxes on their own I wouldn't want to have harnsers 308 for the job there are far better choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 i've got 6.5 for fox aswell as deer, mostly fox tho, you can get ballistic tips for them, also hollow points down to 85gr if you fancy reloading, or know someone who does Personally i'd rather the bullet went straight through, rather than bounce back at me if it hits bone which i've heard happen before, there was a thread on here about a year ago, someone had a .243 soft point come wizzing back past their ear after hitting the fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 centrefire bullets bouncing back off bone I've heard some tripe on here but that takes the biscuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 centrefire bullets bouncing back off bone I've heard some tripe on here but that takes the biscuit love it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 centrefire bullets bouncing back off bone I've heard some tripe on here but that takes the biscuit talk all you want fella, the thread was on here a while back, the OP asked about 6.5 for fox, the truth of that matter is he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) centrefire bullets bouncing back off bone I've heard some tripe on here but that takes the biscuit I dont know about "bouncing back off bone" Ive seen them defleck off bone and exit somewhere totaly different,a mate did this once shooting fallow hit the first one broad side on heart and lung shot the deer ran and the other beast which was stood behind and too the left fell over first when the bullet hit it in the neck after leaving the first beast body. two deer with 1 shot,first time Ive ever seen that.Ive seen bullet exit out the body in some very strange places back onto calibers for fox I can use my 7mm wsm for foxes,at the end of the day if you dont ask you will never know what they will allow you Edited November 16, 2011 by Ackley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Why would you want to have a 6.5x55 just for fox, its not the ideal tool for the job and ammunition would be more pricey than 223 even if you reload, is it cos you want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Why would you want to have a 6.5x55 just for fox, its not the ideal tool for the job and ammunition would be more pricey than 223 even if you reload, is it cos you want one. couldnt agree more "fast and flat is wear its at" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I dont know about "bouncing back off bone" Ive seen them defleck off bone and exit somewhere totaly different,a mate did this once shooting fallow hit the first one broad side on heart and lung shot the deer ran and the other beast which was stood behind and too the left fell over first when the bullet hit it in the neck after leaving the first beast body. two deer with 1 shot,first time Ive ever seen that.Ive seen bullet exit out the body in some very strange places back onto calibers for fox I can use my 7mm wsm for foxes,at the end of the day if you dont ask you will never know what they will allow you deflect is one thing come back at you quite another. I'd suggest the person making the claim probably didn't own anything more powerful than a catapult. As for fast and flat shooting I'd totally agree as well, bearing in mind most fox shooting is done at last light or in the dark you really don't want to be thinking too much about range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 most people i dare say who have a 6.5 have it conditioned for fox as well as deer (i know i have), but that's not the point - just fox, i doubt it very much. And as for a bounce back - i may believe it if he were shooting FMJ rounds at a steel fox target 40 yards away, and even that would surprise me, as for a bone, tosh! At most it would deflect but there's no way it would transfer that energy back again. You don't want the bullet to pass through - you want it to transfer all it energy into the fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 What a load of rubbish, particles of bone and deer antlers especially could pose potential hazards to persons nearby in theory but c/fire bullet bouncing off a fox bone and comming back at you Under the guidlines .243 and 6.5mm are generally only granted when the applicant wishes to own but one gun for deer and fox, i have had far bigger cals granted for the same or "fox while in the act of deer stalking" this means no night use . There is also the factor of wind and range mentioned in relation to this type of calibre in use for foxes, though getting a 6.5mm granted would be unlikely though not impossible as i have seen worse errors made in licencing depts (bear in mind they can and have recognised thier mistakes after grant and withdrawn). Whatever you get they all drift and i see no great advantage to the 6.5mm for fox. IMO go for the .243" and a higher BC varmint bullet like the new 87grn v-max would be an easier choice, varmint rounds in 6.5mm are not going to easy to percure in factory loded BTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I've been trying to look for the thread, ******** if i can find it tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Thats a shame! Have to say the chances of it happening are the same as a 6.5 bouncing back off a fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Thats a shame! Have to say the chances of it happening are the same as a 6.5 bouncing back off a fox maybe "bounce" is the wrong word :yp: , how about deflect? All i can seem to remember is he was out lamping foxes, using 55gr remi soft points which was what i was using in my 22/250, and the guy reckoned he had one come whistling back past his ear, more likely a frag or a stone chip, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 maybe "bounce" is the wrong word :yp: , how about deflect? All i can seem to remember is he was out lamping foxes, using 55gr remi soft points which was what i was using in my 22/250, and the guy reckoned he had one come whistling back past his ear, more likely a frag or a stone chip, who knows? But there is not even 55 grn 6.5mm Bullet in existance i am aware of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 But there is not even 55 grn 6.5mm Bullet in existance i am aware of he wasn't shooting a swede, it was a 243 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholiath Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) This paragraph in the Home office firearms guidance to police suggests 6.5 for fox. 13.23 Common rifle cartridges considered suitable for the shooting of foxes range from .17 Remington, and .22 Hornet to .22 -250 and .220 Swift, though there is a wide range of suitable similar calibres commercially available. In windy areas, where heavier bullets aid accurate shooting, or if applicants wish to use one rifle for shooting both deer and foxes they may choose a rifle in 6mm (.243/.244) or 6.5mm (.264) calibre. .22 Rimfire is generally too low-powered to be used against fox except at short range, but may reasonably be permitted for use against such quarry in certain circumstances. However, sole use against fox would not normally be sufficient good reason to acquire such a rifle (see paragraph 13.15). Combination shot gun/rifles should have the rifled barrel in a similar calibre. Expanding ammunition should be authorised for shooting foxes. Those involved in shooting foxes will normally be authorised to possess up to 250 rounds and acquire 200 at any given time, but consideration should though be given to each shooters individual circumstances, particularly where re-loaders are acquiring missiles. See also paragraph 13.14 on allowing applicants flexibility to reasonably shoot other species on named land Edited November 19, 2011 by nicholiath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 22/250 would be my choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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