dee21 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) Hi there, currently have my B.S.A super 10 F.A.C for sale and because it is at my local gun shop for this purpose have to contact my licensing branch of police as does the shop to say that they are holding the gun. My problem is i have been contacted by someone new to the department who has notified me that as the gun is at the gun shop and not in my possesion that i will need to surrender my licence even although i have 14 months left or else take the gun back in to my possesion. This is something new to the shop in there 20 years or so experiance although they are not 100% if correct or not. The girl from the licensing branch has given me till this friday 9th to decide what i want to do and said she will cotact the shop also, however one week on and she has not contacted the shop as she is aware that they are more in the know than i am . any thoughts or comments appreciated. Edited December 6, 2011 by dee21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 So you've put the gun into the shop to sell on your behalf and because of that the new FEO reckons you have to surrender your FAC?! If thats correct she's talking out of her backside, ask to speak to the licencing manager and i'm sure you'll get an apology for the mistake made by the newbie Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yes if your are BASC member contact them ASAP. If not wait for a more knowledgeable answer but I cannot see the issue. Assuming your BSA is for sale (could be for repair?) it should be on the shops RFD register, when it sells you will buy perhaps another FAC air rifle? Or perhaps put in for a .22LR as more suitable to your land? Unless your circumstances have changed (lost permission etc) and tahts why you are selling then I dont see why you would need to surrender your FAC just because you are selling the gun? DO you only have one slot for FAC air on the FAC? Where do you live? Have you contacted your FEO (the person that does home visits)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Are you a BASC member ? if get them on the case "Thats Ridiculass" (sorry about spelling) I've held guns for people while they move house or for repair and we dont need to even inform the plod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 And for this wonderful, knowledgeable service they want to put the price up !!. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david hunter Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 i go on holliday every year and my guns are left with a rfd and has never been questioned.to me its a load of bull.i would phone your firearms office and have it put right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 i go on holliday every year and my guns are left with a rfd and has never been questioned.to me its a load of bull.i would phone your firearms office and have it put right. Same here, my mates a Rfd so stores em for nought, he puts them on his list and I notify my local FA dept, they are glad the guns are in a proper safe rather than being in a gun cabinet in an empty house for a fortnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee21 Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 SOLUTION ! Was reading some unrelated posts and stumbled on a solution ,which the F.A.O asked me about but did not point out that it was a solution. Gunshop notified my branch that they had gun but ommited the moderator which is listed seperatly on my licence and i was asked if it was still in my possesion therefore my intention is to retreave silencer ,if possible to remove this easily, therefore it will remain in my possesion and on my ticket, am sure i will be popular on friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm sure you dont need to hold a mod or firearm on the ticket to hold a ticket anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee21 Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 phoned BASC today and seems if nothing on ticket licensing people like it that way and its fairly common for them to request this. Different if you have another gun to put on it once yours is sold but if nothing on it they like to tidy up anything they can even if its very inconvenient to the third party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Well if your not planning on buying another i see the point, but as it is at the shop on i assume a comiision sale it is still your protery and you can go and take it back at any point, aslong as you still have liscence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb403 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 if nothing on ticket licensing people like it that way and its fairly common for them to request this. At the end of the day it's not really up to them liking it or not though, is it? You're a certificate holder and will be until you need to renew or until you choose to surrender it. What happens if the RFD can't sell your gun for the price you want and you've already surrendered your ticket, you'd have to reapply for a new FAC (and pay the fees again I'd imagine!) just to get your gun back! Cheers Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Sign it over to rfd to sell and put a variation in for another . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hi there, currently have my B.S.A super 10 F.A.C for sale and because it is at my local gun shop for this purpose have to contact my licensing branch of police as does the shop to say that they are holding the gun. My problem is i have been contacted by someone new to the department who has notified me that as the gun is at the gun shop and not in my possesion that i will need to surrender my licence even although i have 14 months left or else take the gun back in to my possesion. This is something new to the shop in there 20 years or so experiance although they are not 100% if correct or not. The girl from the licensing branch has given me till this friday 9th to decide what i want to do and said she will cotact the shop also, however one week on and she has not contacted the shop as she is aware that they are more in the know than i am . any thoughts or comments appreciated. It can be argued you no longer have good reason if your selling it then you just proved it to be the case. Taking back the moderator will not help as you have no good reason for that with no gun. If your after the same again you might have to do a 1 4 1 then at that time get your RFD to take your old one in as a commision sale or PX. Remember the FAC allows you to posses and use that gun it does not licence you in any other way. If your looking for a different mdel you will have to play thier game if you want to change to another type of firearm you will need to file a variation BUT you can only have a FAC for firearms you have "good reason to posses" your FAC and anyones can be revoked the minute the good reason disapears no matter how long it has to run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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