farmshooter Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hello all, Just wondering but if i have a rifle barrel shortened aprently it needs to reproofed? Why is this as surly its not making the barrel weaker as your not making any part thinner Thanks FS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 if you dont sell it you dont need it reproofing if you sell it on, techincally you should. i think its a bit of a grey area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duttonv8 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 If you have the shortened barrel threaded for a moderator then that part of the barrel would be thinner than it was previously, not sure if this is relevant or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmshooter Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 The gun shop said if i just wanted it screw cut id only needed it proofed if i was going to sell it, as i want it shortened it needs to be re proofed Thanks FS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 that may be their policy, but it doesn't have to be proofed unless you want to sell it on later. been there. thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 The Act states................ Barrels reduced so that the Mark does not represent the Proof to be deemed unproved. If any Barrel which shall be marked as proved under the recited Act or this Act shall by any Process of Manufacture, or by any other Means whatsoever other than the User and Wear and Tear thereof, be unduly reduced in Substance or Strength so as that the Mark thereon does not duly represent the Proof which if then duly proved it would bear, every such Barrel shall for the Purposes of this Act be deemed an unproved Barrel. To me shortening a barrel does not unduly reduce it's strength or substance, remembering that length is not substance, therefore I would suggest that shortening does not require re proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmshooter Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Cheers for that i may email basc n check then tell my gunshop Fs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 How would you describe substance then? weight, dimentions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 If you have the shortened barrel threaded for a moderator then that part of the barrel would be thinner than it was previously, not sure if this is relevant or not. This is bang on (pardon the pun) just been through this with Border Barrels with my TRG... if they just shorten it then it doesn't need re-proofing. However, as soon as they screwcut it it does as they are removing metal from the barrel walls and potentially creating a weak spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Make of this what you will..... http://jacksonrifles.com/zz-silencers/proofcounsel.htm Simple fact is over the last couple of years I have Purchased and Sold, cut barrels and screw cut, and NOT subsequently proofed rifles through 2 different RFD with NO PROBLEM AT ALL! It strikes me this is just the Proof Houses trying to generate income! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Have done this.Chopping and/or screw cutting a barrel does not require it to be re-proofed,but if you want to sell it you may be required to have it proofed.The way to get around this is to chop off the screw-cut prior to selling,which automatically brings the barrel back into proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmshooter Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hello guys, this is my reply from basc It is not a legal requirement for you to have an un-proofed gun, only to sell one but the gunshop (probably as part of the terms and conditions of their insurance) will wish to proof the gun. It will also be their wish to avoid any comeback should the gun blow in your care if they release it to you without proof. If the gun is tested in a controlled environment then it cannot harm anybody if it fails. You have to consent to proof and the dealer should tell you that it is part of the service before work is carried out. It is doubtful they will hand the gun over to you without being proof tested after the work is carried out unless you sign a disclaimer saying you take all responsibility. I hope this is of help FS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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