tosspot Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 had a stroke of good fortune the other week whilst rummaging around at the local XWD surplus i came across a Rolls Royce Merlin engine which i was able to aquire very reasonably i have retro fitted it to my old Yam FS1E SS of 1972 vintage a bit tight but it shoe horned in eventually i chose this machine as my base model so i could take advantage of the pedal start facility didn't fancy kicking the old girl over before some smart alec says it yes i have up graded the brakes to that off an AP 50 luckily my local garage still sells leaded 2 star good job we're a bit behind the times down here eh trouble is i'm not quite sure of the firing order can anyone help? i am very eager to get on the road so i can burn my mate off who runs a fully blown Keith Black funny car lump in his Honda Melody any help gratefully received i would just like to thank my employers for finally allowing me internet access at work you know it makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I think you would have been better off loping 3 mm from the top of the fsie barrel and filing the top of the piston flat. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted June 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 tried that LB ended up holing the piston thats a point, do you think i should up grade the main jet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 I had a mate who had a Yam FS1E SS. He used to spend every weekend without fail fixing it - it was always the head gasket and he just used the gasket in a tube stuff - bright blue it was. Ah, fond memories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 tried that LB ended up holing the piston thats a point, do you think i should up grade the main jet? Definetly. Go too big and run flat out in every gear til top speed reached. Hit the kill switch and remove the plug. If it's black, go down a size, repeat until you get the browny/grey that allows pistons to survive. Don't forget to take your number plate of so the rozzers cant id you LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 if you are going to fit a rr merlin engine to your fisie you need to change your sprockets to the ones off a dt 80 then it will be 'sweet as' and might even see off a rd 50( but not if the rd has mag wheels) yours knowledgeabley plinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted June 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 well here's the lump chaps all 27 litres of it cheers plinker is that 16 tooth front 49 rear? should i go marlboro or gauloise paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 dont know i can,t count but you will definitely need a micron zorst and possibly even ace bars if you really want to push your machine to the very limits. yours boy racerly plinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Your all giggling but there WAS a chap who used a Merlin in a SPORTS car (jag i beleive) and got Jaguar a BAD name in Germany by driving down the Autobahn and breakneck speeds and NOTHING at the time could keep up. German Police said it was Anti Social to drive at such speeds? Well i thought that was the WHOLE point of the Auto Bahn? Anyway the story is Jaguar forced this guy to remove the Jag logo from the car because they were being inundated with complaints about their cars from the german police Oh and also there was a guy chopped the end 2 cylinders from a Merlin and DID infact use them in a Motorcycle though again i think i would stick to a 1100 lump max in mine LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Here is a snippit i found from one website about the use of Merlins etc in cars Michael Wilcock of Sussex, England built the Swandean Spitfire Special, using a Merlin XXV engined acquired from a a scrap yard for fifty pounds. The engine was installed in a home-brewed chassis confected from two Daimler scout car items. The car was run in the Brighton Speed Trials in 1953, and was sold to James Duffy of St. Louis, Missouri in 1956. As of 2005, the vehicle is still in St. Louis, where it is undergoing restoration. In the 1960s Paul Jamison put a Merlin engine (some say it actually was a Rover built Rolls-Royce Meteor, which was a de-tuned Merlin without superchargers and with steel components replacing some aluminium ones) into a chassis he had built himself. He did not get around to building a body, and sold the car to Epsom automatic transmission specialist John Dodds, who fitted a fibreglass body based on the shape of the Ford Capri and named the machine "The Beast". Originally it had a grille from a Rolls Royce, but after complaints from them he had to change it. According to Dodds' account he once drove by a Porsche driver on the autobahn who then called Rolls Royce asking about their "new model". The Beast was once listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's most powerful road car. The engine came from a Boulton Paul Balliol training aircraft which would give 1,262 hp (941 kW) at 8,500 feet (2,600 m). No supercharger was fitted to the engine in car so it "only" delivered about 850 hp (630 kW). The car used a General Motors TH400 automatic transmission. The Beast is alive and well in Marbella, Spain and is still owned by Dodds. In the mid-1970's Jamison designed a second Merlin-powered car. This one had six wheels - two in front and four driven at the rear - and a mid-engined layout. The vehicle was featured by one of the British weekly motoring magazines (either "Autocar" or "Motor"), and is said currently to reside in a museum in Sweden. Around 1990, Jamison began work on a third Merlin-powered car, using a genuine 1930's Rolls-Royce chassis, but this vehicle remained uncompleted at the time of his death. Australian Rod Hadfield of the Castlemaine Rod Shop built this: Final Objective I also found a piccy of a guy who use the rolls royce Meteor engine from a TANK in his Rover SD1 piccy here Must be mad LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 had a stroke of good fortune the other week whilst rummaging around at the local XWD surplus i came across a Rolls Royce Merlin engine trouble is i'm not quite sure of the firing order can anyone help? Here is the information that you requested. Cylinder ID Bank: Right - A, Left - B when viewed from supercharger; "A" has oil regulator; 1-propeller end, 6-supercharger end Firing Order 1A-6B-4A-3B-2A-5B-6A-1B-3A-4B-5A-2B, Have you extended the FS1E frame by 6 feet, or you are planning on mounting the engine transversely? I ask this because if you go for the latter option, you may have some cooling problems on the rear bank of cylinders. Good luck with your project. Please post the address and details for your local hospital and funeral directors so that the forum members will be able to send you get well messages or condolence cards after your first test run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Hodmedod.one Makes a fine point about mounting the said engine transversely re the cooling options . May i also suggest that the fine handleing of the FS1E may be compromised with the transversely mounted engine . Also have you thought about what clocks you are going to fit ?? As a 0-70mph speedo may not be up to the job . Looking forward to seeing a few piccys !!! all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 that is some engine love to put that in my quad bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 mounting the engine tranversely? that's plain silly, how would i line the sprockets up? by sticking it in length ways it marries up nicely to a Sturmy Archer three speed hub ps my mum says i will look cool and maybe get a girlfriend that she approves of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Stone me! I thought you was joking Tosspot It might be better fitting it in to a Zed 1. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Jesus wept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 been thinking about mounting the merlin in her transversley,it was really bugging me ,so to cut a long story short i went out in the workshop just now and built a full scale model of your fizzy /merlin out of solid brass,yes there is an issue with the sturmy archer hub but i think i have the answer if you mount the wheels sideways you can ride side saddle need i say more plinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted June 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 been thinking about mounting the merlin in her transversley,it was really bugging me ,so to cut a long story short i went out in the workshop just now and built a full scale model of your fizzy /merlin out of solid brass,yes there is an issue with the sturmy archer hub but i think i have the answer if you mount the wheels sideways you can ride side saddle need i say more plinker it's three in the morning i am tired and i want to go home but the above has inspired me to soldier on a complete redesign may be needed to encompass your theory plinker i could be going round in circles though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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