Salop Matt Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 As above really, when limping fox do you use white light or a filter ? And is there any noticeable difference in the results with each method / setup ? I've been using red filters to date but was curious to what others are doing and finding! Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I usually use a red filter or orange sometimes.Find it better for not spooking foxes when i'm walking around.If i find a lamp shy one,which is not very often then go NV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Light is light if it is not infa red all a filter does is dim it some which can be a help as todays lamps are often a bit too bright. If you believe otherwise fine- but there is no real science behind it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Most of my foxes are lamped with white light, but I have also used a red filter. Recently, I used an amber one with good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Amber, its easier on the eye (yours). Plus, I cant see a thing with a red filter ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I use amber or none, i find that the red filter severly limits the range at which it will pick out the eyes to about 150-175yds. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choke it Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 i use a red filter on my 240 blitz which also as built in dimmer i never have trouble spotting my qurry with it at long distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 i use a red filter on my 240 blitz which also as built in dimmer i never have trouble spotting my qurry with it at long distance what would you call "long distance" I use red for rabbits,amber and change to white for foxes if I have to push the distance past 300 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Am not worryied about reducing range as I only go out to 100 yards for a shot on fox with the HMR and spotting out to 150yards is fine for me ! Maybe if i one day get a CF i will worry about spotting out at 200+ yards ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 No filter. They cut down on lamp range - I use a dimmer instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I have a dimmer but tend to search on full power and knock it down in power as the distance is reduced to my quarry (rabbit / fox). But am not convinced about it as rather than fiddle with dimmers I would rather just keep the fox / rabbit on the edge of the beam on the halo if you wish to call it that. I have a deben in line dimmer and regret buying it now! Am convinced that red filters are best for rabbits in my mind and am 90% convinced that a red filter is best for fox too, out of red filter or no filter! You may get more body detail on a fox with a white light but the eyes to just beam back so much clearer with a red filter than without or so is my opinion. I haven’t tried an amber filter and this may be a happy medium between the 2. I personally think that my light force is quite power hungry so am reducing the amount of cable on it also to try and improve things, ultimately though am going to sell it or just keep it to run form the truck. For on foot am going to get a clu-light clu-brite as it will do everything I want and has 2 power settings which should do everything I need as all my rabbit and fox work is done with the HMR so what ever colour am using am only shooting to 100 yards any way and scanning / searching to 150-200 yards max. Am also convinced that once you pick something up in the lamp you should leave the lamp on it until you either shoot it or it runs. The seem to run off more if you turn the lamp off ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) I have a dimmer but tend to search on full power and knock it down in power as the distance is reduced to my quarry (rabbit / fox). But am not convinced about it as rather than fiddle with dimmers I would rather just keep the fox / rabbit on the edge of the beam on the halo if you wish to call it that. I have a deben in line dimmer and regret buying it now! Am convinced that red filters are best for rabbits in my mind and am 90% convinced that a red filter is best for fox too, out of red filter or no filter! You may get more body detail on a fox with a white light but the eyes to just beam back so much clearer with a red filter than without or so is my opinion. I haven’t tried an amber filter and this may be a happy medium between the 2. I personally think that my light force is quite power hungry so am reducing the amount of cable on it also to try and improve things, ultimately though am going to sell it or just keep it to run form the truck. For on foot am going to get a clu-light clu-brite as it will do everything I want and has 2 power settings which should do everything I need as all my rabbit and fox work is done with the HMR so what ever colour am using am only shooting to 100 yards any way and scanning / searching to 150-200 yards max. Am also convinced that once you pick something up in the lamp you should leave the lamp on it until you either shoot it or it runs. The seem to run off more if you turn the lamp off ! looks like you dont need to know what others are using as it seems you have got the job all sorted by the way red filters are rubbish for foxes past 100 yards Edited January 6, 2012 by Ackley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Whys that then Akley. surely regardless of the filter colour its down to how much power is behind it ? Also its the fox side of things am asking other experienced foxers on as i havent got much experience on fox, maybe taken 15 in 3 years ! (because i only take them if the chance presents, i dont go out secifically to target them and havent been asked to specifically target them !) Edited January 6, 2012 by salop sniper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Agree with Ackley.. Red reduces the beam to under 100 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Whys that then Akley. surely regardless of the filter colour its down to how much power is behind it ? Also its the fox side of things am asking other experienced foxers on as i havent got much experience on fox, maybe taken 15 in 3 years ! (because i only take them if the chance presents, i dont go out secifically to target them and havent been asked to specifically target them !) once you have been out on long dark nights and shot a few hundred foxes you will then se why a red filter isnt any good,what ever you shoot at you need to be able see it clearly and not just a set of eyes,also you need to be able to see what is around and behind what ever you are shooting at,also you ned to know where its gone if hit and runs,you can loose a fox running accross a field in no time with a red filter on but you do what works for you.everyone is different,I know an old boy who wont shoot without a red filter BUT he dont shoot past 70 yards and thats with a 223,mind you hes a blind as a bat even in day light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) You could do a lot worse than to buy a book called "Foxing with lamp and rifle" Edited January 6, 2012 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 You could do a lot worse that to buy a book called "Foxing with lamp and rifle" I dont kn ow you could buy anyhting by the warrener,that would be a lost worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choke it Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 i never said shoot at longer distance i said spot them most people will know what distance they are capable of shooting as for red filters only good for shooting out to 100 yds you need to get a better scope or get to spec savers and before we start with the bs i shoot alot of foxes useing a lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Pray tell what sort of scope or indeed glasses one should purchase then? A swaro 6-24, with a lightforce 170 with 20/20 vision is surely "just about ok?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) i never said shoot at longer distance i said spot them most people will know what distance they are capable of shooting as for red filters only good for shooting out to 100 yds you need to get a better scope or get to spec savers and before we start with the bs i shoot alot of foxes useing a lamp well done,but "spotting" tham at longer distance and shooting them at longer distance is a different matter Edited January 6, 2012 by Ackley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 This link is well worth a read before the keyboard warriors surface... http://www.wildlifeonline.me.uk/questions_answers_foxes.html#colourblind Thus, in conclusion we can say that foxes -- and dogs in general -- are not colour blind; they possess dichromatic vision that effectively makes them red-green colour blind. The lack of a fovea in canines also implies that humans are able to discern details twice as well as dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Ackley is spot on (again). Red filter reduces light output to much. Yes you can see a foxes eyes at 300 yards with a red filter on but would you really take the shot at a pair of eyes? A white light shows detail. On a long shot you need detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Quote Thus, in conclusion we can say that foxes -- and dogs in general -- are not colour blind; they possess dichromatic vision that effectively makes them red-green colour blind. The lack of a fovea in canines also implies that humans are able to discern details twice as well as dogs. Iirc. The best colour a dog can see is purple. And the one the carnt see is orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 For myself thats not an issue as my max distance would be 100yards on a still night with my HMR. And if i ever get centre fire i would only feel comfortable going out to maximum of say 150-180 yards ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yer not a dig at you just a general observation. Red filter cuts usfull light output a lot. To 100yards or less. Yes you can see eyes at distance. I aslo find that using a red filter makes things like range estimating harder and getting the crosshairs on them a bit slower (unless your using light up cross hairs. Mine are always have a flat battery). Out of all the 61 foxes I shot last year I didn't use the filter once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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