magman Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) If you have a closed ticket and shoot over land that is passed by your FEO , then you go on said land and have a incident with a rifle that has been passed could you then sue said firearms department as they passed it for said rifle No i haven't had any problems just a thought Could be an interesting thread i think ******** missed the u Edited January 19, 2012 by magman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robborobbo Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Regardless of paperwork or who approves the shooting, you pulled the trigger. If its not safe to shoot don't dont attempt it, shooters have to take responsibility for their own actions 👍 My opinion anyway ..... Edited January 19, 2012 by robborobbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Would of thought the mod that moved this could of edited the title for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Regardless of paperwork or who approves the shooting, you pulled the trigger. If its not safe to shoot don't dont attempt it, shooters have to take responsibility for their own actions 👍 My opinion anyway ..... That's my point No permission is 100% safe so the responsibility lies with the shooter is it not ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Whatever happens it's down to the person who pulls the trigger to make the right call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 There are boundaries to every permission. It is the shooter who fires over the boundary or unsafely anywhere. The feo cannot be at fault or nowhere would be passed for anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 magmans just saying why bother clearing any land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Regardless of paperwork or who approves the shooting, you pulled the trigger. If its not safe to shoot don't dont attempt it, shooters have to take responsibility for their own actions My opinion anyway ..... I think you are 100% right - I cannot begin to understand how the FEO can be involved - let alone to blame - it is a sad, sad culture in which we live where people try to pass the buck for errors which are entirely their own. Maybe I am misunderstanding what Magman is trying to say and the question appears to be hypothetical but at the end of the day the losers will be the perpetator & those who are shot or injured in the "incident" and the only winners will be the lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'm sure you must have had something in mind when you asked the question. On the face of it it's ridiculous, you could stand at the boundary and fire directly off permission and then blame the FEO, not likely is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm sure you must have had something in mind when you asked the question. On the face of it it's ridiculous, you could stand at the boundary and fire directly off permission and then blame the FEO, not likely is it? Your all missing my point show me any land that's been cleared and i will show you an area on it that's unsafe to shoot so its down to the guy behind the trigger . So why the need to pass the land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyD Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Because although all land has some unsafe shots, some land has no reasonably safe shots for a particular calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Go on, what have i hit now? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Go on, what have i hit now? :lol: Well it wasn't a ***** rabbit was it Edited January 20, 2012 by nickbeardo do not evade swear filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Well it wasn't a ***** rabbit was it :lol: just had to get my eye in, thats all :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 BASC have actually lobbied using pretty much this exact argument to get land clearance (and by association closed licences) done away with. Any piece of land will have parts where a shot would not be safe regardless of what an FEO might clear it for. It is always the shooter who would take the consequences of any incident that arises so even those with closed licences are still expected to use their judgement before shooting in exactly the same way an open licence holder is. As I actually have an open licence though, I'd miss the licence snobbery if they abolished it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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