gameshooter09 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Right, my son is 17 and has a shotgun license. I'm just wondering what the law is for him travelling to our permission with his air gun or shotgun (in car). Can he legally do this? I understand the law allows him to shoot by himself once at the permission, but can he legally transport the gun to the permission on his own? Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Aged 14 to 18 years: You may not buy or hire an air rifle or ammunition. You may not receive an air rifle or ammunition as a gift but you may borrow one. If you are under 18 then your air rifle and ammunition must be bought for you by someone over 18 - normally your parent, guardian or some other responsible adult. If you are aged between 14 - 18 years you may use an air rifle on private premises without supervision with the consent of the occupier - normally the owner or tenant. However, if you allow a pellet to go outside of the premises whilst you are shooting then you commit a criminal offence. You may not carry an air rifle in a public place unless you are supervised by a person of 21 years or over and you have a reasonable excuse to do so, for example, whilst on the way to a club or land where you have permission to shoot. It is common sense to carry the air rifle in a gun cover and you should always ensure that it is unloaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Shotgun is similar check BASC site http://www.basc.org....3B3C5BBEFDE1899 15 TO 17 YEARS OF AGEBetween 15 and 17, with a certificate, you may be given or lent a shotgun (and cartridges) for up to 72 hours by another certificate holder and use them on private premises without supervision If they regularly borrow the same gun probably best to have it as "lent" on their SGC just in case they get stopped. With the gun covered should be fine. UNDER 15 YEARS OF AGEIn this age group if you hold a certificate you are only allowed to borrow a shotgun. There are two ways to do so; firstly for 72 hours according to certificate instructions (i.e. without completing any written transfer or notification to police), and secondly by written transfer by the lender onto table 2 of the recipients certificate and a notification to police by both parties (as per certificate instructions). You may not purchase, hire or be gifted a shotgun or ammunition. Additionally; in all circumstances you may only possess an assembled shotgun when supervised by an adult aged 21 or over, or if the gun is in a securely fastened gun cover so that it cannot be fired. Edited August 29, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameshooter09 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 The trouble is he is 17 and is now driving, he was wondering whether he could drive to the permission himself with the gun in the boot? I'm guessing thats a no? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 The trouble is he is 17 and is now driving, he was wondering whether he could drive to the permission himself with the gun in the boot? I'm guessing thats a no? Thanks I say yes, Between 15 and 17, with a certificate, you may be given or lent a shotgun (and cartridges) for up to 72 hours by another certificate holder and use them on private premises without supervision By lent means they are in sole charge of the gun (this is as i see it) might be worth an email or call to FEO or BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Wow! these restrictions are more severe then for 14-17yr olds using a firearms Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Over the age of 15 he can legally take his shotgun,unsupervised, to use it anywhere he has permission to shoot,whether he's driving or walking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 The trouble is he is 17 and is now driving, he was wondering whether he could drive to the permission himself with the gun in the boot? I'm guessing thats a no? Thanks The shotgun is not a problem, the air rifle is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskoky Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 The shotgun is not a problem, the air rifle is. You can carry a shotgun but not an air rifle? Now that make sense - not that I don't believe you - just can't believe the law sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 You can carry a shotgun but not an air rifle? Now that make sense - not that I don't believe you - just can't believe the law sometimes! It is interesting that as a general rule, the restrictions for age etc on guns tend to be opposite to how easy it is to obtain a licence. ie air gun - no licence required is the most restricted, then shotguns then s1 firearms. Also for example an airgun pellet leaving your boundary is a specific criminal offence wheras a shotgun pellet is civil tresspass (if no damage caused then no action taken) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 The shotgun is not a problem, the air rifle is. Mark, I know not, so I'm just asking. Has Section 22 (5): It is an offence for anyone under seventeen to have with him an air weapon in a public place except: 1 An air gun or air rifle (but not an air pistol) which is so covered with a securely fastened gun cover that it cannot be fired. been amended/deleted or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) 1 An air gun or air rifle (but not an air pistol) which is so covered with a securely fastened gun cover that it cannot be fired. been amended/deleted or whatever? amended IIRC to make it 18 like the rest of the EU CRIME & SECURITY ACT 2010 From the 10th February 2011, the Crime and Security Act 2010 made it an offence for a person in possession of an air gun to fail to take “reasonable precautions” to prevent someone under the age of 18 from gaining unauthorised access to it. 14 -17 YEARS OF AGE In this age group a person may not buy or hire an airgun or ammunition or receive them as a gift; however you may borrow one from a person over 18 years of age and use it on private property where you have the occupiers consent, without supervision. Anyone selling an airgun or ammunition (including pellets, darts etc) to a person under 18 years of age commits an offence. A person within this age group may not carry an airgun in a public place* at any time unless supervised by a person of or over 21 years and only when you have a good reason for doing so. *A public place is anywhere where the public are allowed to go even though they may have to pay. Roads, streets, footpaths, canal towpaths, public parks and play areas are all examples of public places. http://www.basc.org....DD7723D851D28BF Don't know if an airgun in a slip is a different matter Edited August 29, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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