Gimlet Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 There seems to be plenty of people who think he is better - or his party. Trouble is I would be embarressed to think someone like him represented me and my country, it's very superficial but then are most of the population. Plus they have no plans to actually sort out this mess the country is in, they seem to think spending our way out it the best. Does that ever actually work?!? Quite right. Who created the sub-prime mortgage crisis in America? Bill Clinton with his Credit Equality act. Only a liberal with inherited wealth could dream up a scheme of encouraging the poor to borrow their way out of poverty. America still hasn't got it yet and neither has Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 going a bit off topic, who think DC's wife is doable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 going a bit off topic, who think DC's wife is doable? any holes a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 any holes a goal erm, deffo better than blair's wife, the axe murdering psychotic clown look didn't do it for me. about time we got some decent fluff in number 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) You can understand why so many people don`t bother voting anymore. Every government promises everything and delivers only misery. Is it right that Camoron has promised a referendum on the EU if we vote him in again?? Edited October 10, 2012 by Muggins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 If labour were still in power I have no doubt in my mind we as a country would be bankrupt by now and we would be like Spain,Portugal,Greece etc, the cuts were no doubt in my mind needed to stop us getting in more of a financial mess I just hope labour do not get in power next time and do the same as before the conservatives can carry on as they as far as I'm concerned...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 What austerity? What cuts? When is it going to start? We need a PM to the right ofThatcher, we've got a Heath. Cameron has also pledged to continue throwing money into the sovietised collectivist trade union job creation scheme that passes for a healthcare system and to maintain foreign aid merely to prove he's a soft and fluffy Tory who cares. Why? We effectively provide free health care for anyone from the EU or anywhere else in the world who chooses to walk across our collapsed borders, and we pay alms to India, among others, a country with nuclear weapons and ambitions for a space program, as a token to assuage post-colonial guilt. Let them sort their own bloody people out, they're nothing to do with us. I have no post-colonial guilt Mr Cameron, leave my money alone. If you feel guilty scatter your own mney around the world, not mine. Can't see any reason to end tax avoidance efforts any time soon. What are you, a hippy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) If labour were still in power I have no doubt in my mind we as a country would be bankrupt by now and we would be like Spain,Portugal,Greece etc, the cuts were no doubt in my mind needed to stop us getting in more of a financial mess I just hope labour do not get in power next time and do the same as before the conservatives can carry on as they as far as I'm concerned...... The conservatives can carry on as far as i`m concerned... If like Cameron you`re on £160.000 + expenses + perks then cuts aren`t going to effect you like they will if you`re on £15.000 a year. Why should he worry? Edited October 10, 2012 by Muggins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'm shocked by some of the mis-informed comment from above. Diplomacy comes at a cost and its always best to keep a nuclear power on our side (referring to the above post). With regards to the other comment. It took labour several years to ruin us yet you expect the Tories to fix it overnight...get real. Minimum wage has helped...discourage people employing people legitimately so has pushed employers to take on illegal workers or self employed contractors or just not employ! At the end of the day there are plenty of jobs around, otherwise we wouldn't have such a large foreign workforce, the issue is the welfare leeches prefer to play ps3 than do menial jobs. The welfare reforms will change this. Rule 1 should be you get nothing for free. I was made redundant un 2010, I could have gone on dole and played PS or do what I did, start a business. All the while it pays to do nothing, people will do nothing. As soon as they realise they can no longer blow £'00's on booze tags drugs and games they will either stop spending or get off backside and get a job or start a business. And yes the jobs are there, just some people too proud to clean loos, empty bins, sweep roads, etc. Oh how I could go on..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 The conservatives can carry on as far as i`m concerned... If like Cameron you`re on £160.000 + expenses + perks then cuts aren`t going to effect you like they will if you`re on £15.000 a year. Why should he worry? Oh I no what your saying mate if I had been made redundant or on a very low wage I would probably have a different view of things and the current government was probably a unfair comment, but I still stand by the labour bit..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Is it me or did the cons just increase the tax threshold? So that makes less tax on that person only earning £15k. Why are people so narrow minded? 40% tax on £160k is a lot more than 20% on 15k, plus those on higher earnings usually remove kinds from state system thus saving gov't even more money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 BNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) BNP +1 Failing that i'll vote for anyone who has the balls to admit immigration and foriegn workers are the biggest problem in this country ! Edited October 10, 2012 by lumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) BNP bnp wasted vote they will never be elected and you just end up on a mi5 file, if you want out of europe look at ukip much more electable Edited October 10, 2012 by storme37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I am not sure that any government has effective control on its economy when it depends so much on every other country's financial state. No political party wants us to be in this state and they all have their theories about how to make things better. FDR's New Deal is credited for getting the US out of the Great Depression but would it have happened anyhow? King **** had as much luck trying to control the tide... Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) sorry duplicate post Edited October 10, 2012 by storme37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 That was not a typo that was starred out! The forum censor robot does not like the name of the Danish-born king of England C n u t Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 +1 Failing that i'll vote for anyone who has the balls to admit immigration and foriegn workers are the biggest problem in this country ! If our lazy dossers on welfare were prepared to work then there would be fewer jobs available for migrants so they wouldn't bother coming. If you want someone to blame knock on the door of the labour votor who in fact doesn't do any labour but sits on his **** watching Jeremy Kyle as he's work shy and enjoys FIFA or cod or wow or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 If our lazy dossers on welfare were prepared to work then there would be fewer jobs available for migrants so they wouldn't bother coming. If you want someone to blame knock on the door of the labour votor who in fact doesn't do any labour but sits on his **** watching Jeremy Kyle as he's work shy and enjoys FIFA or cod or wow or whatever. Lets not forget it was the tory's who have put more people out of work than any other party's (Thatcher crippling the coal and steel industries). I'm sure you are aware that theres loads of foriegn workers getting paid far less than the minimum wage making them job's unavailable for people who would need minimum wage just to survive. I live not far from the port of dover and see hundred's of immigrants turn up every week, This IS a real problem and one that will only get much worse if nothing is done to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakoQuad Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 if you look they have reduced the defecit in the face of falling tax revenues its just a mamouth job. Strange - last set of figures I heard about, very recently, the deficit / debt was worse than ever, worse in fact than when they came to power. Mind you I am sure they won't let a little fact like that get in the way of the B/S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 As before you can't expect them to right over a decade of labour screw Ups in such a short time. Browns legacy continues. We are sorting it though, but expecting miracles will only lead to disappointment. And yes perhaps they are focussing on staying in power, prob because they know it will take a ling term gov't to fix the ling term labour screw up. Does anyone really think Cameron is just in it for the power. Don't be silly, he wants to fix this just as much as we do and he knows to do so song term stable gov't is required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 As before you can't expect them to right over a decade of labour screw Ups in such a short time. Browns legacy continues. We are sorting it though, but expecting miracles will only lead to disappointment. And yes perhaps they are focussing on staying in power, prob because they know it will take a ling term gov't to fix the ling term labour screw up. Does anyone really think Cameron is just in it for the power. Don't be silly, he wants to fix this just as much as we do and he knows to do so song term stable gov't is required Well said that man!!!!! If our lazy dossers on welfare were prepared to work then there would be fewer jobs available for migrants so they wouldn't bother coming. If you want someone to blame knock on the door of the labour votor who in fact doesn't do any labour but sits on his **** watching Jeremy Kyle as he's work shy and enjoys FIFA or cod or wow or whatever. Yeah I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I am not a Conservative, Labour or the other lot but I have had quite a lot of contact with politicians over the years and the one thing that has struck me is that the majority as in it for the right reasons. They want to change things for what they see for the better - I may have issues with what that vision is but that does not take away from their motives. Of course you get a share of shysters, con-artists and outright crooks but the same is true of any slice of life. During his time as Chancellor, Brown was recognised across the world as being good at his job - as PM he was dire and he is a good example of being careful what you wish for. I have taken jobs that I quickly realised that I had little aptitude or real interest in - luckily for everyone, this did not include being in government! When laying blame, remember what is going on in the rest of the world. There are some real nuggets of truth in many of the posts here but I am not convinced that there is any one overriding cause or that the PW Party would do any better, if elected. Nick ps, if there were to be a PW Government, who would volunteer to be PM and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 ps, if there were to be a PW Government, who would volunteer to be PM and why? god help us it would make the bnp look like a childs tea party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Lest anyone forget, it was the Conservatives who gave us every piece of anti gun legislation that we`ve ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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