alros01 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Hi I would like to know what chokes everyone uses for ducks over a small pond I normally use a 1/4 or a 1/2 for pigeons and crows but a friend of mine uses cylinder for pigeons and ducks over ponds thanks for your replies I'm using a benelli m2 and I've a benelli super black eagle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 AFAIK steel loads stay in the wad until it leaves the barrel so choke isn't as much of an issue unless it's too tight. I use CYL myself. Any HP steel load will tell you to use less than half choke anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I use 1/4 and 1/2,for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 it would really depend on how & where you are gonna shoot them ! if you're flightin at night then 1/4 & 1/2 with a 32grm 6's is plenty but If you're shootin them out of the coasts and over big lough's you be best with 1/2 & 3/4 with 32grm 5's, Drivin & walkin them up 2 X 1/2's with either of the above shells will be plenty . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 it would really depend on how & where you are gonna shoot them ! if you're flightin at night then 1/4 & 1/2 with a 32grm 6's is plenty but If you're shootin them out of the coasts and over big lough's you be best with 1/2 & 3/4 with 32grm 5's, Drivin & walkin them up 2 X 1/2's with either of the above shells will be plenty . i would not recommend using 5s or 6s ,if your using steel , i would say drop to 3s. on the coast 3s and 1s and BBs for geese . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 1/4 and 1/2 will be fine for what ever shot you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 i would not recommend using 5s or 6s ,if your using steel , i would say drop to 3s. on the coast 3s and 1s and BBs for geese . the guy never said he's any intentions of usin steel shot hence my advice -- he asked about choke choice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) the guy never said he's any intentions of usin steel shot hence my advice -- he asked about choke choice ! well if he is shooting wildfowl .then i would expect him to be using none toxic as that all can be used on wildfowl . And it was just my advice not to use 5s or 6s not a go at you so calm down me old fruit . O yes through half choke if using a auto but o/u same if you got 2 halfs Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 so if this chap is shootin ducks on a stubble field he must use steel shot -- that's a new one to me !! If you read Gamebore's posters on their steel shot they say it can be shot through any choke constriction ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Steels not the only non toxic. He's shooting over a small pond, bismuth 5s or 6s will be perfect and 4s if he's using steel will be more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) so if this chap is shootin ducks on a stubble field he must use steel shot -- that's a new one to me !! If you read Gamebore's posters on their steel shot they say it can be shot through any choke constriction ! look mate i expect your good with a shovel because your digging yourself a big hole here , now i will say it for those at the back that did not hear me the first time ,ONLY NONE TOXIC SHOT CAN BE USED ON ANY WILDFOWL .Inland or foreshore look it up mate please and also do not offer advice without knowing the facts . I do apologise to other members for my comments if they seem out of order .. Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Steels not the only non toxic. He's shooting over a small pond, bismuth 5s or 6s will be perfect and 4s if he's using steel will be more than enough. ..... that's why i said if using steel ....... Edited October 21, 2012 by washwildfowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) The guy is shooting over a small pond so well within the capilibity of steel. If so then washwildfowler is right , 3s in steel will do the job fine possibly 4s if he expects a lot of teal, and the present chokes he uses will be OK. In reality up to 30 yards it will not matter what shot size he uses below 3s , but there will be times when the duck maybe a little shy and 3s will do a better job at 40 yards. If using Bismuth or Tungsten then 6s or 5s are fine. I was shooting a flightline of 50 yard high mallard a while ago with a couple of mate. My mates were using steel 4s and though hitting the birds too many flew on. I was using no 2s and all my birds were killed stone dead. Edited October 21, 2012 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) look mate i expect your good with a shovel because your digging yourself a big hole here , now i will say it for those at the back that did not here me the first time ,ONLY NONE TOXIC SHOT CAN BE USED ON ANY WILDFOWL .Inland or foreshore look it up mate please and also do not offer advice without knowing the facts . I do apologise to other members for my comments if they seen out of order .. This is the correct information!!! And certainly not out of order! Edited October 21, 2012 by tigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) listen pal you're tryin to be a smart *** about somethin that hasn't anythin to do with the OP's question -- if you wanna talk about steel **** start your own thread up ! Edited October 21, 2012 by P~MX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washwildfowler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 listen pal you're tryin to be a smart *** about somethin that hasn't anythin to do with the OP's question -- if you wanna talk about steel **** start your onwn thread up ! NO! sorry not being a smart **** at all... just being correct in what i am saying , in my first reply , i said "IF"using steel.... "NOT" that he had to use steel ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) It is relevant to the OP's question P~MX becasue he's shooting wildfowl, and living in Carlisle one assumes he's probably not shooting in Scotland where the rules differ, so it's safe to assume he would be using non toxic. It makes no difference whether he is shooting on the foreshore, on inland waters or over stubble fields, it is not legal to shoot wildfowl with lead. It may be news to you (which is of slight concern if you are an active hunter!) but Washwildfowler is giving the correct information and you aren't, so you might want to wind your neck in a few feet. Edited October 21, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 listen pal you're tryin to be a smart *** about somethin that hasn't anythin to do with the OP's question -- if you wanna talk about steel **** start your own thread up ! Yours to read at your leisure you may even learn something http://www.basc.org.uk//en/departments/game-and-gamekeeping/game-shooting/lead-and-nonlead-shot.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Stick 1/4 in and fill ya boots out to 35- 40 yrds , Steel i would say 3's or 4's or if ya posh maybe smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 In my opinion of its over a pond it will be fairly close range and therefore choke will be somewhat less relevant. Just don't overchoke on steel. I want to know what loads you are using OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yours to read at your leisure you may even learn something http://www.basc.org.uk//en/departments/game-and-gamekeeping/game-shooting/lead-and-nonlead-shot.cfm He knows about the lead restrictions. He's asking what has it got to do with the op question...... Which choke for shooting duck over a small pond.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 It is relevant to the OP's question P~MX becasue he's shooting wildfowl, and living in Carlisle one assumes he's probably not shooting in Scotland where the rules differ, so it's safe to assume he would be using non toxic. It makes no difference whether he is shooting on the foreshore, on inland waters or over stubble fields, it is not legal to shoot wildfowl with lead. It may be news to you (which is of slight concern if you are an active hunter!) but Washwildfowler is giving the correct information and you aren't, so you might want to wind your neck in a few feet. Like I said before the OP asked about choke constriction and thats what I offered my advice on ! But read this and wind your neck in pal -- direct from the link above for the BASC THE LEAD SHOT REGULATIONS The regulations follow a habitat–based approach by prohibiting the use of lead shot to shoot any species of bird or animal on or over ‘wetlands’. Shooting ducks, geese, game, pests or clays away from wetlands is not affected by the legislation. So, for example, ducks flying over, or geese coming into, a dry stubble field can still be shot with lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 and btw some of you above ( active hunters) posters would need to learn the definition of "Wetlands" and know the difference between them and a 'Pond' !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Like I said before the OP asked about choke constriction and thats what I offered my advice on ! But read this and wind your neck in pal -- direct from the link above for the BASC THE LEAD SHOT REGULATIONS The regulations follow a habitat–based approach by prohibiting the use of lead shot to shoot any species of bird or animal on or over ‘wetlands’. Shooting ducks, geese, game, pests or clays away from wetlands is not affected by the legislation. So, for example, ducks flying over, or geese coming into, a dry stubble field can still be shot with lead. Not in England and Wales mate, best go back and read that part again... I retract my last Edited October 21, 2012 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I use 1/4 and 1/2 in my o/u inland on the foreshore 1/2 in a semi 3 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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