jam1e Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 As above folks, I'm after a .204 Ruger depth gauge but apparently they don't do one!!? The shell holder for my .204 is a number 4. I'm told the the number 4 also fits the .223 which is easily available. But obviously the depth gauge would not fit in the case. I'm trying to establish if the metal is hardened, and preventing it from being worked down to a .20 cal on a lathe? Anyone have an idea? Or maybe have done the same? Cheers Jamie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted October 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Have i put this in the wrong category? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 As above folks, I'm after a .204 Ruger depth gauge but apparently they don't do one!!? The shell holder for my .204 is a number 4. I'm told the the number 4 also fits the .223 which is easily available. But obviously the depth gauge would not fit in the case. I'm trying to establish if the metal is hardened, and preventing it from being worked down to a .20 cal on a lathe? Anyone have an idea? Or maybe have done the same? Cheers Jamie. Hello Mate, Pretty sure they are hardened or tool steel or both. Besides the fact that a .223 gauge wont fit in the .204 case, due to its diameter, isnt the OAL shorter than a .204??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve42 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) Would'nt be a problem turning the body down even if it was hardened , if you want it done will do it for you for the cost of the postage as Newsportshoots says would have to modify the OA length and carry back the diameter that fits the primer hole ATB Steve Edited October 30, 2012 by steve42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I think .222 case is the same OAL but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Firstly its better not to trim if the cases dont yet need trimming, check the lengths they are at currently. I use an RCBS trimmer and am 90% sure they come with the approrriate .20 centering guide. some cases dont need trimming for many, many firings and i have serious doubts if it would be possible to descern a difference in your groups trimming the same batch of cases if oa length was erfectly safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I think .222 case is the same OAL but I could be wrong. no its based on the old .222 magnum a longer case, that was a very good round but was effectively knocked into near non existance by the later launch of the .223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Brock and Norris will make you a custom rod. Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Thanks for all the replies folks. Much appreciated. As Kent has said, at the moment they don't need trimming. I just wanted to have the tools ready for when the time comes. I've measured some of my "spent" Hornady cases and they are very slightly under the oal according to my digi vernier. I'm a metric man so i'm finding imperial abit of a learning curve!! Are any of you folks using rounds with the oal of the brass being abit longer than the stated in the Lee Modern Reloading guide? Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Would'nt be a problem turning the body down even if it was hardened , if you want it done will do it for you for the cost of the postage as Newsportshoots says would have to modify the OA length and carry back the diameter that fits the primer hole ATB Steve Thanks Steve, thats very good of you. I've bought a "Possum Hollow Kwick Case Trimmer", But at some point in the near future i'd like a Lee case depth gauge as i would presume it's more accurate? Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Brock and Norris will make you a custom rod. Neil. Thanks Neil but i wouldn't know what dimensions to give them? Anyone out there know what Lee depth gauge would fit the .204 Ruger? The store i was in yesterday stated that people who have "uncatered for" calibres find the right depth gauge rod, but then have to buy another depth gauge rod and base, just to get the right shell holder. Would i be right in thinking i just need to buy one that is the same size/number as my shell holder. In my case a number 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Thanks Neil but i wouldn't know what dimensions to give them? Anyone out there know what Lee depth gauge would fit the .204 Ruger? The store i was in yesterday stated that people who have "uncatered for" calibres find the right depth gauge rod, but then have to buy another depth gauge rod and base, just to get the right shell holder. Would i be right in thinking i just need to buy one that is the same size/number as my shell holder. In my case a number 4? You don't need to know the dimensions, they will work it out for you. The length I believe is the same as for .222 magnum Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) I just ordered a 204 trimmer for another PW member from CTS, it's similar to the Possum Hollow but does a better job and has larger extraction holes for the trimmed brass to fall through, also fits a standard drill without an adaptor. I sent him a sized case as he didn't have dies for the 204 and he posted it about a week after getting the case, now sitting in Florida with the 223 an 308 versions I previously ordered so will pick them up next month when we're over. Review here, http://www.calguns.n...ad.php?t=587361 Edited November 1, 2012 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) i trim all my cases every time ,some cases will trim and some cases wont ,this then takes another equation out off shooter error Edited November 1, 2012 by pigeon pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I think you will find that case trimming is not needed as often if you neck size your once fired cases, you will most often find better accuracy as a result as well. Even in HOT 22 CFs the case stretch is mitigated by neck sizing and annealing. I do trim when absolutely necessary but find neck tension a bigger issue as far as accuracy is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Thanks for all the replies folks. Much appreciated. As Kent has said, at the moment they don't need trimming. I just wanted to have the tools ready for when the time comes. I've measured some of my "spent" Hornady cases and they are very slightly under the oal according to my digi vernier. I'm a metric man so i'm finding imperial abit of a learning curve!! Are any of you folks using rounds with the oal of the brass being abit longer than the stated in the Lee Modern Reloading guide? Jamie If you make a cast of your chamber you can check the trim length you need, its often longer than the std spec. reason being tollerace for dodgy cases and people who cannot read thier equipment correctly. special alloy melting blocks are sold for this purpose, i dont recomend you try this - learn the basics first and stick to the stated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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