Shahin Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Hi, Looking at rotarys and they are fairly expensive, before everyone says it, I know you get what you pay for but im a cheap ***. ive noticed some people saying make one, but... im not a very good handy man. Can anybody point me in the right direction or give me some tips on making one? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Try here http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...=Search&f=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 You need some steel bar, steel rod, steel box section or tube, nuts and bolts, a car wiper motor, cable, battery, speed controller, tools and some welding ability..... I made one in the past because they were expensive, but you can buy them for next to nowt now. It's hardly worth messing about. For the time it takes to obtain the materials, design the rotary and make one, you might save £30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi, Looking at rotarys and they are fairly expensive, before everyone says it, I know you get what you pay for but im a cheap ***. ive noticed some people saying make one, but... im not a very good handy man. Can anybody point me in the right direction or give me some tips on making one? cheers Don't think you want to be wasting your money one this one do you ? Get one bought Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 You got a set of plan's from me so you should know what is involved makeing one ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahin Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 i remember sending you an email requesting one but i didnt get an email thats why i posted this message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 i remember sending you an email requesting one but i didnt get an email thats why i posted this message Will send again to ezeeno1@aol.com Just checked the first one was sent on the 22nd have just sent them again hope you get them this time........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I'm just in the process of starting to build one as well. I'm going for the alloy version first, I hope it holds the weight of the woodies. Opted for an electric car aerial motor assembly, and for the speed controller I have an old 12v battery drill that I have dismantled, and I am using the trigger mechanism ( and electronics ) which I am going to mount in a box and control it with a screw thread hopefully. I haven't got a clue what it's going to look or operate like but it's worth a try all the same. If I had any pictures I would post them but I have only just begun, as the Carpenters used to sing. Regards Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Seeing as no-one has bothered to reply, I will add another bit of text. For anyone who is interested, or just trolls through and gleans information without actually adding to threads, or anybody who just can't be bothered to reply........ I tested my home-built pigeon magnet thing this morning. Worked perfectly using the light shell-type decoys. Whirring round, slowly blowing in the light/medium winds I enticed a nosey woody into the catchment area. Let wang with the 12g and it duly fell to the ground with a thud after spiralling helplessly in a downwards manner. Anyways, I retrieved the pigeon and proudly placed it on the end of the rotary. Little did I know that the centre of balance was shifted somewhat, I made haste back to the cover of the hedge leaving the unbalanced rotary giving it big heave-o's. About 3 minutes later I saw the two arms go into a spasmodic reaction as it collapsed around itself. Forensic examinations revealed that the weight of the "proper pigeon" had pulled the nut heads straight through the epoxy filler that holds it to the motor. The filler was soft and thats what caused the problems. I will rebuild it with epoxy resin liquid this time as I think it will be a bit harder wearing. And also, I will make sure that I have two proper pigeons on it to balance the weight. Other than that, I am pretty chuffed at what I built. No need to reply, I will reply myself later on because I use forums properly. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Here's a picture of the motor assembly. And the supporting arms This is the soft epoxy resin filler that caused it to collapse. Not a big job to do, but more annoying because it worked so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 If the "light shell decoys" worked why change ? Why not try the real one on a flapper/bouncer or just on a cradle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 From what I gathered, HD, a real pigeon ( or a decoy with wings ) was the best option. The only ones I have are the wingless shell type, and look a bit odd flying round in circles without wings spread out. I thought that at the time. Question being " If the spinning decoys are drawing them in - why put a real one on it, could it be better ?" But there we go, the design is flawed, it is not strong enough to hold heavy fatties and therefore I will have to buy some foam/shell ones. Still, I am a bit miffed about that filler. I is at least an inch thick and should easily be ample. The resin I used to secure the gearwheel is rock-solid, therefore that is the way to go. I'll cast a new base, and see how that goes. Cheers Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 You could try a plastic shell, with homemade foam wings stuck on it. A friend of mine uses these on floaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I will try that - Risking another breakdown with those fat woodies is a no-no. I must have got the wrong end of the stick by thinking that you had to put real dead pigeons on the end. We live and learn Regards Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 At last I sourced another motor/gearbox for my homemade pigeon magnet. I tried to reconstruct the last one but had to give it a totalmakeover and the time was out weighing practicality. After a rumage in a skip, I salvaged a motor / gear assembly from a kids toy truck and it looks the business, plus a 13Ah battery that looks ok but I will have to test and be sure. Will put some pictures if any one is interested. This thread seems to have died a death since I came on....... Trust me , I am a nice person really Regards Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Nick Try using some real pigeon wings with a couple of wooden skewers pushed through the hollow bones of the wings, then skewer them through the body of the shell deaks, then cut a piece of wood shaped to the underside of the deak, & staple it through the lower part of the wings & deak, this stops the wings from spinning round & holds them firm in a realistic position. Drill a hole the size of your rod arms in the wood. I've not tried these on a rotary but I'm sure you could modify it to work. I use mine as a floater. See some pics in the craft & DIY section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Could do SS, I might just buy a couple of the polystyrene deeks and stick them on. I'm still building the motor assembly. Came across a a couple of things I havent got and have to aquire them. Keeps me happy for now knowing I could save £50 or more. Always a bonus saving money if possible. Regards Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbeagley Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 You got a set of plan's from me so you should know what is involved makeing one ?:stupid:?? Hi Mike, any chance of you sending me the plans for the rotary as well? cheers, Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 You cab buy them on ebay for 50 quid from andy moss.........mr hawkeye sent me his plans(very good) but being the not so good at chopping metal type i decided to buy one and save the hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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