MG6065 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ive finally bitten the bullet and I'm going to appy for a 223. I want it for fox control. All the advice ive gathered is swaying me towards this calibre. Most of my foxes will be around the 200 yard mark so i have no need for a 22-250. I'm just curious to what a decent setup is going to cost me? and can you reccomend me some guns ?Am i better off buying new as opposed to second hand due to the barrel wearing out? thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 223 isnt known as a barrel burner mate. they will cope with 1000's and 1000's of rounds, but still you want a rifle thats been looked after and cleaned properly after use. not just chucked in the cabinet witht he mod left on. which in turn will soon knacker the crown and put the rifling. really you also need to go into your local shop and try and get a feel for some different rifles. well most people will say go sako. or tikka etc getting to grips with a rifle will soon tell you what suites your needs. i really like tikka's and the older model m595 in paticular. you can pick them up secondhand for next to nothing. with mounts and a mod. the bolts are smooth they feed superb and has a great trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Picked up my tikka m55 for £215. Nice rifle good grouping and I think it's 20+ years old.. Shot thousands of rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG6065 Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 oh right, im looking for a set up on abudget of 500-600£. i appreciate it isnt much but im only 18 and im not made of money. i just need something that will enable me to kill foxes and isnt going to break or be a pain, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 You will certainly get better value all round going for a .223. I don't think you have to worry so much about the barrel being worn out on a .223. Although it may be possible, (?) I think that's more likely in hot rounds. Like the .22-250. As for used or new. You wouldn't go wrong with a cz 527, or Howa 1500, or Tikka T3, or the Remington 700. The Remmy has a multitude of accessory options. All of which you could expect to pay between £500 to £700 new. I'd say the Tikka T3 would be the best of that bunch for quality. You can get some very nice "combo's" at the moment. I think the best combo deals are with the Howa 1500. For approx £1000 you can get the gun, scope rings, scope (various) and moderator. In all honesty i wish i'd gone for one of those combo's. However, the market is full of very good USED .223 rifles. It's definately a buyers market in that calibre! Scopes seem to be a very controversial subject on this forum. And regularly ends in insults being exchanged. It gets a tad boring. So i'll leave it to others to give opinions on "glass". Good luck to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 oh right, im looking for a set up on abudget of 500-600£. i appreciate it isnt much but im only 18 and im not made of money. i just need something that will enable me to kill foxes and isnt going to break or be a pain, cheers MG if that budget is to include glass you are not going to get much, spend half your budget on a scope, look for used versions of popular mid price brands, such as Meopta, Leupold, Nikkon etc. and dont overdo the magnification. Rifle wise for the money you have left you are in the Parker Hale, BSA and CZ end of the market, you should be able to pick up a good CZ 527 for that sort of money and you wont be disappointed with it. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 oh right, im looking for a set up on abudget of 500-600£. i appreciate it isnt much but im only 18 and im not made of money. i just need something that will enable me to kill foxes and isnt going to break or be a pain, cheers You'll pick up a nice used .223 with mod and scope for that easily! As "most" of the used guns in an rfd will or should be in good nick. They should all serve there purpose in fox control. So, as has been mentioned, try them for fit bringing them up to your shoulder. I recently bought a gun that i knew was a good alrounder. I paid my deposit and the remaining monies when it arrived at the rfd. I'm now finding it doesn't fit me that well and i'm currently looking for a replacement stock. Lesson learned.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 MG if that budget is to include glass you are not going to get much, spend half your budget on a scope, look for used versions of popular mid price brands, such as Meopta, Leupold, Nikkon etc. and dont overdo the magnification. Rifle wise for the money you have left you are in the Parker Hale, BSA and CZ end of the market, you should be able to pick up a good CZ 527 for that sort of money and you wont be disappointed with it. Ian. It's an Open forum and we all have a view, I do not necessarily agree with that. It is true to say that for £5-600 you will struggle to get much of a new setup, but also bear in mind the Howas, and many others that come as a package, have Nikko S or other scopes retailing very MUCH less than £300. Get a setup that works for you, and personally I'd buy a reasonable gun and worry about the optics later, there are some excellent scopes you could use for under £100! My .223 has a JSR Target pro, about £40 now I think, they were about £60 when I bought mine. It gets used everywhere and as some here already know this combo did 8 V Bulls and 2 Bulls at 600 yards with test ammo, cold barrel and new shooter, and the shooter blamed himself for the 2 bulls saying he hadn't watched the flags. You don't need £300 +++++ scopes as many would have you think, but most certainly if you can afford them then fine, but it seems you are having to cut your cloth, don't be concerned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's an Open forum and we all have a view, I do not necessarily agree with that. It is true to say that for £5-600 you will struggle to get much of a new setup, but also bear in mind the Howas, and many others that come as a package, have Nikko S or other scopes retailing very MUCH less than £300. Get a setup that works for you, and personally I'd buy a reasonable gun and worry about the optics later, there are some excellent scopes you could use for under £100! My .223 has a JSR Target pro, about £40 now I think, they were about £60 when I bought mine. It gets used everywhere and as some here already know this combo did 8 V Bulls and 2 Bulls at 600 yards with test ammo, cold barrel and new shooter, and the shooter blamed himself for the 2 bulls saying he hadn't watched the flags. You don't need £300 +++++ scopes as many would have you think, but most certainly if you can afford them then fine, but it seems you are having to cut your cloth, don't be concerned! I agree. Have a Tikka and fiind it to be an excellant gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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