brett1985 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 i think all of these puns will serve no other purpose than getting a few people on here a little hot under the collar..... i'll get my coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Lodge Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Here is mine, £1800 last March, price included Clear View burner, short liner, register plate and all welding and fitting etc. Woo Hoo! Figured out how to attach an image (with the help of the Better Half (she's still reading this))! Edited November 30, 2012 by White Lodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 im confused went to fire shop today ref gas fires and was told that i do not require a liner as i have a chimmney..i thought the liners took any dangerous gases straight from the fire to the outside....if i dont require a liner for a gas fire why do i require a liner for a wood burner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 You don't need a liner for either really. I have an oldish house with an original brick chimney, as the house was built with back in the day. When I bought the house it had a gas fire, the cowl on the chimney pot was designed for gas fires and reduced air blowing down the chimney and potentially extinguishing the gas flame. When I ripped the fireplace out to put a stove in I just changed the cowl to one for an open fire an bingo, we're good to go! The whole chimney liner thing is merely a way to extort good money out of folk for stuff they don't need. If you've got a chimney you don't need a liner, like our forefathers never needed one either. The same could be said for hard hats, hi viz vests, cycle helmets and a host of other junk we're brainwashed into thinking we will explode or die without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Lodge Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 We didn't use a full liner as our chimney was ok, we thought it might leak as the house is made of cob. However, we were told that a liner makes the fire draw better and improves overall efficiency. We didn't go with one, thinking it could be added later if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 When you have creosote and other resins running down your interior walls, all your brickwork and mortar is knackered and your kids have asthma, then you will know why you need a liner. They don't even cost much, plenty on eBay suitable for solid fuel. The above may not happen, a liner makes sure it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Basically if you have a chimney without a clay liner in an older house a log burner can cause deposits of tar, these can come through and appear on the walls or accumulate and cause chimney fires. So not essential but in older chimneys a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuC Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 When you have creosote and other resins running down your interior walls, all your brickwork and mortar is knackered and your kids have asthma, then you will know why you need a liner. They don't even cost much, plenty on eBay suitable for solid fuel. The above may not happen, a liner makes sure it doesn't. 6m Liner, nose cone, adapter and cowl cost about £150 delivered. It's the **** taking HETAS engineers that cost, my quote was a grand to s+f the above. Even the council building control are getting in on it. £200 to come inspect and sign off. Inspect what? Any joints are up the chimeny hidden by the register plate. Bloody joke. I can sit there and burn whatever I like in the open fireplace without CO alarms (I have 1 anyway), without sign off. How did we get out off the caves without a HETAS engineer are local building control. Sorry chaps, rant over. I'm off to calm down abd change a light fitting, surely you don't need approval for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 I was looking at an insert fire yesterday, i said i had the old flu still in place from the back bolier, and 2 seperate fire shops told me that this would be removed by the engineer, both again told me as it was an insert fire no liner etc was required as i have a chimmney place.. There were also fluless fires but i was told more expensive and i was better off with an insert,,,,, i never knew buying a fire was so hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Spaniel you have a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Shouldn't be a big deal to do if you get the right parts, the hardest part of mine was getting the liner down the chimney - the only other issue is my chimney was slightly out of centre so i ended up with a very slight angle on the connector pipe which bugs me but is not really noticed by others. this was originally an open fire with a back boiler, I knocked it through installed 2 lintels, installed the liner, Installed the fireboard, used fire rope (can be seen lying in a coil to the right in the picture) to fill any void at the bottom. poured in the vermiculite between the liner and chimney, installed the stove and connector pipes, screeded the walls either side and painted them with gloss heat proof masonry paint. job jobbed! First pic with Granite slab hearth and liner in place... Second with stove and fireboard, all together third all completed from the lounge side.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I like that, Gixer. Eventually I'll get a house with a burner like that, or add one. At the moment, half the heat from my burner goes into the wall, would be nice to get hte benefit on both sides... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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