gixer1 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Just had the HMRC letter through about the child benefit - what an absolute joke!!! In basic terms if you earn over a certain amount you get child benefit but then are taxed the same amount on it! But if you decide to not work and pop out kids one after the other or earn a lower amount (and therefore pay less tax) you are eligible for the child benefit.... So basically it's a reward for mediocre or non achievement... Why should someone who pays less into the system get more out of it based on how many kids they have??? Total joke of a system! And...breath! Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Life just aint fair pop along for your free prescription and calm yourself down BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 how else do you create an underclass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Life just aint fair pop along for your free prescription and calm yourself down BB Reckon I could count on one hand the amount of prescriptions I have had in the last 3 years - so that's like a whole £25?? Oh yeah, that's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) . Edited November 29, 2012 by Boromir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Your a selfish @@@@ aint you. Who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guss109 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Know the feeling gixer it seems the less you put in the more you get back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Who ? I'll second that .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) . Edited November 29, 2012 by Boromir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I see your point mate but im pretty sure the op wasn't meant to come across that way BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) The OP, all I see in that post is if no person earns as well as him he looks down on them or shouldnt be entitled to anything. I can understand about the ones pumping out loads of kids for benefits but to say that cause I dont earn as much as him doesnt mean I dont work as hard ****** me right off. Just selfish and ignorant. Did i say I was in that bracket??? NO! Therefore you should think before posting nugget... I just think its unfair that the harder working should get less that the people who sit on their backsides doing jack! And where did I mention work level in comparison to pay level?? Another assumption? ...thought so! Quite clearly you have a potato field on your shoulder... Edited November 29, 2012 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 The OP, all I see in that post is if no person earns as well as him he looks down on them or shouldnt be entitled to anything. I can understand about the ones pumping out loads of kids for benefits but to say that cause I dont earn as much as him doesnt mean I dont work as hard ****** me right off. Just selfish and ignorant. Well I think your missing the whole point. The point is that people can, and do, pump out huge numbers of kids to work the system. They get everything they need, house, enough money, no hassle of work, everything paid for. Whereas those who do what they can to earn a living get no help, no money, and aren't entitled to anything because they try to work. It should be that you get rewarded for working, not penalized. The system is back to front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) I just think its unfair that the harder working should get less that the people who sit on their backsides doing jack! Im totally with you on that one,see bold BB Edited November 29, 2012 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Quite clearly you have a potato field on your shoulder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Just had the HMRC letter through about the child benefit - what an absolute joke!!! In basic terms if you earn over a certain amount you get child benefit but then are taxed the same amount on it! But if you decide to not work and pop out kids one after the other or earn a lower amount (and therefore pay less tax) you are eligible for the child benefit.... So basically it's a reward for mediocre or non achievement... Why should someone who pays less into the system get more out of it based on how many kids they have??? Total joke of a system! And...breath! Regards, Gixer Yes a bit of a strange one similar to me having to pay for my daughter to go to uni while in Scotland its free , and then there are prescription charges too !!! I guess you guys up in Scotland are getting much more than your "paying in" and I dont hear any complaints. Having said that I agree the present family allowance rules are a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes a bit of a strange one similar to me having to pay for my daughter to go to uni while in Scotland its free , and then there are prescription charges too !!! I guess you guys up in Scotland are getting much more than your "paying in" and I dont hear any complaints. Having said that I agree the present family allowance rules are a joke. gixer must be one of the 12% of scottish people who are net contributors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Just had the HMRC letter through about the child benefit - what an absolute joke!!! In basic terms if you earn over a certain amount you get child benefit but then are taxed the same amount on it! But if you decide to not work and pop out kids one after the other or earn a lower amount (and therefore pay less tax) you are eligible for the child benefit.... So basically it's a reward for mediocre or non achievement... Why should someone who pays less into the system get more out of it based on how many kids they have??? Total joke of a system! And...breath! Regards, Gixer same here mate,apparently,i earn too much!!!!!!!!! im over the threshold, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes a bit of a strange one similar to me having to pay for my daughter to go to uni while in Scotland its free , and then there are prescription charges too !!! I guess you guys up in Scotland are getting much more than your "paying in" and I dont hear any complaints. Having said that I agree the present family allowance rules are a joke. In all fairness I haven't been here all my life (father from northants and mother from Derry n'orn Ireland) so I feel I am in a good position to complain. Although I will say I don't believe there are many working Scottish people receiving more than they pay in - you are deluded if you believe this - the drain on the British system are the people who have paid nothing in through choice yet have claimed benefits. Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Lets get this debate off to a good start what about illegal ones That`s the problem with this country the more you try to better yourself the worse off you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Harder you work harder they shaft you. I get no help, I'm above the threshold. Annoying when you see the amount of cash some people get. System is deffo broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I work with several Eastern Europeans , 98% of them have fathered children with EE girlfriends in the short time they have been here, we are liable for child benefit for each of those children even if they return to the parents place of birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I agree....got shafted last year for doing too much overtime and now they are taking the money back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Child benefit? I assume you mean tax credit? What's that then? Oh yeah, we got that about 10 years ago! The Benefits office then decided we'd been overpaid and stopped us any futher benefits for 2 years....then apparently we received another bulk payment of £5k. We didn't. We have to prove that we didn't receive it rather than them showing we did. They can't even tell us which account it was paid into! Odd that!! Net result, in the last 10 years we have seen less than £1000 for 3 kids. 10 years worth is something in the region of £15000 ...and people want to have a pop at me for pocketing a couple of cash jobs! They can take a running jump with that idea! Charity begins at home nowadays as far as I'm concerned. Edited November 29, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Child benefit? I assume you mean tax credit? What's that then? Oh yeah, we got that about 10 years ago! The Benefits office then decided we'd been overpaid and stopped us any futher benefits for 2 years....then apparently we received another bulk payment of £5k. We didn't. We have to prove that we didn't receive it rather than them showing we did. They can't even tell us which account it was paid into! Odd that!! Net result, in the last 10 years we have seen less than £1000 for 3 kids. 10 years worth is something in the region of £15000 ...and people want to have a pop at me for pocketing a couple of cash jobs! They can take a running jump with that idea! Charity begins at home nowadays as far as I'm concerned. I think you are confusing child benefit with child tax credit. Child benefit is paid direct to your wife/partner. They wouldn't have stopped it for overpayment of tax credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) I think you are confusing child benefit with child tax credit. Child benefit is paid direct to your wife/partner. They wouldn't have stopped it for overpayment of tax credit. Indeed, child benefit (£25/week per child) is paid to everyone regardless of earnings. Child tax credit is what I refer to (as stated in my first line) and THINK the OP is also referring to. Edit: Just reread Gixer's OP and I'm still not 100%, but, I am referring to tax credits. Edited November 29, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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