Pole Star Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 This post is to do with the post by fendrover in Wildfowling titled Fowling Pike I thought it would be better to post my question here , has anyone ever tried the recipe for pike in the Complete Angler ? , I no longer have a copy so the recipe is only from memory & its incomplete now but I have never heard of any modern day culinary wizards who have tried it ? . Izak Walton states its only fit for anglers & honest men ! this recipe has always fascinated me but the trouble is we don't have any Pike in Orkney ! so not much chance of trying it here . Atb Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Well looks like no one here has tried it either ! so it looks like if I get south for a bit of Piking next year I will have to take one for the pot if no one minds that is . Incidentally I Googled the Complete Angler & there have been a number of editions since the original 17th centry edt & are avaliable at a lot less dosh than the original ! also the original recipe dose not lend it self to well to modern cooking appliances as it is spit roast over an open fire after being stuffed with a whole load of ingredients which among the many other tasty bits & morsels include anchovies of all things then had the body cavity sewn up & then bound together with laths of wood to hold it together while roasting . Now how dose it sound now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Pike is nice but only eat the small ones. They are by far the best tasting when under 6lb, for clean rivers and lakes they are great- but remember they are another guys prized quarry and a lot dont like to see them killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 the idea of you coming down here killing pike, is as distasteful to me - as Italian shooters enjoying themselves in your neck of the woods is to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) Interesting point the U NO WHOs & some of our shooters from the Shires come up here & take all they can ! & some just dump em ! now if they come here & take some for the pot is that a sin & once all birds get to the boot shaped place where do there go ? . No peagasus bridge I am not talking greed I am talking one for the pot ! just like the good Fred J Taylor did & surly that is not a crime so long as you look after the your stock. As for the EEs & the way they behave ! well I think that has been well covered in PW ! & by all means come up try the trout fishing here or perhaps a bit of goosing as I have a good idea you are not one of the greedy take all types . Incidentally I spent much of my young life fishing the river Thames & I am a where that pike about 5 to 7 lbs are best Kent but alas the ones from the Thames in the 70s were very muddy . Thanks for the input chaps , now has any one ever tried that recipe ? . Pole Star Edited December 6, 2012 by Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) my reply was/is only half serious! if you can find a venue that will ALLOW you to remove pike (most dont for good reason) then fair enough edit: have a look at this thread, and you wont have to waste too much time getting to it http://www.flyforums.co.uk/general-fly-fishing-discussion/276563-pike-control-will-teach-me.html i don't know, a 'Pole' wanting to eat pike and me helping them!!!! Edited December 6, 2012 by pegasus bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 the angling club i am a member of only allows you to take them upto 5lb any over that weight have to be returned , its a fish i have never tried i once took one for a friend who reckoned it was better than steak that was out of the swale . i plan to go pikeing this xmas hols so i may get to try one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I have eaten them and also smoked them they are ok I prefer sea fish to eat or Grayling and Sea trout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 grayling now your talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=juAabiJpnn0C&pg=PT171&lpg=PT171&dq=izaak+walton's+pike+recipe&source=bl&ots=9xenje3zHW&sig=Z7rC9QK0WFD3PuTkTwDMH3KTFZo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4wPBUL_9LKak4ATO44HABA&ved=0CGoQ6AEwBw . scroll down the page on the link and theres an izzak walton recipe for roast pike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Pikes alright and plenty recipes out there, got a book somewhere with at least one recipe for every fresh water fish your likely to encounter in the UK. Zander is better, poor man's bass. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Thanks for all the posts & I will check out the links chaps & don't worry I am sure this Walton recipe is not going to start a mass PIKEICIDE !! its just I am curious about this old 17centry recipe & I would like to try it before I am pushing up the daises !. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 if it adds a stir to the mix my best m8s ***** stepdad used to eat perch/chubb and pike and as he said growing up in the 30,s u had two choices eat what dad fetched home or starve . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 if it adds a stir to the mix my best m8s ***** stepdad used to eat perch/chubb and pike and as he said growing up in the 30,s u had two choices eat what dad fetched home or starve . Perch is very nice indeed and i have eaten it. During ww2 it was fished commercially on windermere and sold canned like sardines. The Romans called Chub "sweet chavender" and hated the trout as a table fish, i have never eaten it but i assume as its basically a carp i think the bad news about its taste are due to a lack of a cleansing period in fresh running water sans food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Perch is very nice indeed and i have eaten it. During ww2 it was fished commercially on windermere and sold canned like sardines. The Romans called Chub "sweet chavender" and hated the trout as a table fish, i have never eaten it but i assume as its basically a carp i think the bad news about its taste are due to a lack of a cleansing period in fresh running water sans food Years ago I saw that Hugh chappie catching carp and holding them in running water before cooking, wonder if they were really edible or were the diners putting on a brave face. It was for a bet with a landowner as far as I can recall. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Nope, carp is very edible. I've eaten it on the continent and it's good, but I assume that it is purged beforehand. Quite fancy pike actually, should be a good lean fish meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Years ago I saw that Hugh chappie catching carp and holding them in running water before cooking, wonder if they were really edible or were the diners putting on a brave face. It was for a bet with a landowner as far as I can recall. Blackpowder Saw that one to Blackpowder they were a thing called Grass Carp I understand & one of the dinners said they it tasted like Grass ! poor Hugh & he put so much effort into it ! any way it looked tasty & I would love to have been at the table to try it ! come to think of it the Eastern Europeans have been farming & eating Carp for years so they cant be that bad ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I used to be a mega keen pike angler and would never consider eating one. Leave that to the Poles, Romanians etc who enjoy emptying our rivers with impunity . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Why not? If you caught a trout would you not be prepared to eat it? No real difference other than that you have elevated he fish in your mind for some reason. It's the same with carp, imported to provide a food source, because they get large all of a sudden they achieve cult status. Never did understand it, they are fun to catch but pound for pound not the best fighting fish, overrated as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) I used to be a mega keen pike angler and would never consider eating one. Leave that to the Poles, Romanians etc who enjoy emptying our rivers with impunity . No one is suggesting cleaning out our river systems luckytrigger its just one for the pot ! ie just once in a while ! we know the EEPs seem to be a new problem & I hear nothing but bad reports from all over Britain & Ireland about EEPs which is sad ! I also heard that some EEPs were seen hauling a net between 2 boats just down stream of the Marlow Bypass bridge on the Thames ! but they are just things I have heard ! I stress " heard " . If numbers are not under threat then One for the pot is ok once in a while but if bye laws & club rules don't allow it then so be it . Regards Pole Star Edited December 30, 2012 by Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Why not? If you caught a trout would you not be prepared to eat it? No real difference other than that you have elevated he fish in your mind for some reason. It's the same with carp, imported to provide a food source, because they get large all of a sudden they achieve cult status. Never did understand it, they are fun to catch but pound for pound not the best fighting fish, overrated as far as I'm concerned. I think you misunderstand the resistance to killing freshwater coarse fish - I don't think Anglers (indigenous) are not wanting to kill carp or pike because of a 'cult status' - it is because in most fisheries this is just not sustainable. All you end up with are waters devoid of fish. Pike particularly are vulnerable as they are not stocked the way that carp can be in commercial fisheries - so any pressure from our wonderful guests from EE results in ruining fishing for any mug who pays for a fishing licence (like me). I also wouldn't kill a wild brown trout for the same reason, (unless i was confident that the water had sufficient stock to sustain this). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 the angling club i am a member of only allows you to take them upto 5lb any over that weight have to be returned , its a fish i have never tried i once took one for a friend who reckoned it was better than steak that was out of the swale . i plan to go pikeing this xmas hols so i may get to try one the angling club i am a member of only allows you to take them upto 5lb any over that weight have to be returned , its a fish i have never tried i once took one for a friend who reckoned it was better than steak that was out of the swale . i plan to go pikeing this xmas hols so i may get to try one Well Holly xmas is about gone ! any luck yet ? I hope you have had some luck & would like to hear how it turned out ? Regards & happy new year Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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