markws80 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Hi all I am after a new scope for my 22-250 i use it for foxing day and night at reasonable distances at the mo i have a Bushnell 8x16x50 on, its is a m8 scope and he wants it back to go on a gun what would you recommend? i have been looking at s&b 8x56 But i dont know about using fixed power scope Mark Edited December 3, 2012 by markws80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 No need to keep looking, that'll be the best scope for day and night shooting. Love my s&b's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 or this http://www.uttings.co.uk/Product/543/106370/zeiss-duralyt-3-12x50-rifle-scope-52-54-21-9906/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 the main issue is if you are used to a variable you are unlikely to be happy with a fixed scope for foxing. Personally I have a 6-24x 50 on one and a 5-30x50 on the other with a 22-250 you won't want to be restricting distance at night and I'm not one who likes trying 300 yard shots at low magnification I'd look for something at least similar to what you are using. What then depends entirely on your budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravo2 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 No need to keep looking, that'll be the best scope for day and night shooting. Love my s&b's! +1 on that. It is personal choice but I took the above advice and bought a S&B 8x56 - have not regretted it for one second. I have not tried to shoot anything beyond 200 with it but I am confident it would be fine to 300+. I used to use a variable power scope but found I would set it to 8x and never change... therefore fixed power does not bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 the main issue is if you are used to a variable you are unlikely to be happy with a fixed scope for foxing. Personally I have a 6-24x 50 on one and a 5-30x50 on the other with a 22-250 you won't want to be restricting distance at night and I'm not one who likes trying 300 yard shots at low magnification I'd look for something at least similar to what you are using. What then depends entirely on your budget I am used to a variable thats why i am not 100% set on a fixed scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I had a variable but found I kept changing settings and mag and it seemed to have a detrimental effect on my shooting. I worried more about tweaking the scope rather than taking the shot. Now I've got the fixed mag the simplicity is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I am used to a variable thats why i am not 100% set on a fixed scope set your variable at 8x and use it a bit if you can before giving it back, or even go out and shoot some 300 yard targets see if you are happy. Most people who recommend a 8x56 have one but most end up selling them for a variable and not going back. If it was deer on a larger caliber then I'd probably suggest one but not foxing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 It all depends, I haven't got any land that I can take a 300yrd shot on so the 8x56 is plenty for my needs. I have, however, just bought a 4-16x50 lr S&B, mostly for the parralex adjustable capabilities as I'm looking at getting an archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 your leopold VX1 would probably have been a better choice in that case but the S&B should work just not quite as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Firstly the S&B 8x56 is one fantastic scope and i cannot recommend this particular scope enough!Got mine on my .17HMR. I have a S&B 3-12x50 scope on my .22-250 and this is also superb. There are many many different good quality scopes on the market but again its up to your budget. ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Firstly the S&B 8x56 is one fantastic scope and i cannot recommend this particular scope enough!Got mine on my .17HMR. I have a S&B 3-12x50 scope on my .22-250 and this is also superb. There are many many different good quality scopes on the market but again its up to your budget. ATB. what distances are you shooting the 22-250 with S&B 3-12x50 scope on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 what distances are you shooting the 22-250 with S&B 3-12x50 scope on? No more than 200 yards really with my Archer Gen 3 NV unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I have a hawke nite eye 6x24x50 and it fits the bill just fine. Any time you ask on here or any other site "what scope" you will get the same 2 or 3 scopes coming up time after time which is fine if you want to spend lots of dosh for little gain.Yes the fox you will be looking at will be a clearer sharper image unless you are using an 8x scope and charlie is (a genuine)300 yards away then it will be mostly obscured by the crosshairs. The thing is not to fall into the scope snobbery trap and get one that is more suited to what you are going to use it for and not "the best you can afford" or limit yourself to one of the BIG three. So a decent scope with a minimum of 16x and good mounts is all you need for lamping foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I use a Swarovski 8 x 56 PF on mine, used it for 25 years with a 4A reticule. Present one is a 30mm tube after the original 1" tubed one got damaged. Works very well for me out to 250 yards and sometimes a bit more. If the reticule is obscuring the target I reckon its too far and better left for another night when its being slightly more obliging. I have never used a variable scope as there are enough variables in shooting without paying for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Still got the vx1 if needed though so can have a play around to see what's most suitable. (null) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hi all I am after a new scope for my 22-250 i use it for foxing day and night at reasonable distances at the mo i have a Bushnell 8x16x50 on, its is a m8 scope and he wants it back to go on a gun what would you recommend? i have been looking at s&b 8x56 But i dont know about using fixed power scope Mark Kahles 3-12x56 a4 TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Hi all I am after a new scope for my 22-250 i use it for foxing day and night at reasonable distances at the mo i have a Bushnell 8x16x50 on, its is a m8 scope and he wants it back to go on a gun what would you recommend? i have been looking at s&b 8x56 But i dont know about using fixed power scope Mark The one mentioned will do all you ask of it, with better glass than you have been using IMO. The only thing missing is dialable turrets but many dont bother with that twiddling thing at all in the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 can any make a proper convincing argument for higher mag scopes than the OP suggested in the 8x? Because the way i see it 8x compares a 400 yd fox to a 50yd fox on nil mag and any competant shot should be able to place a bullet in the chest of a fox a 50yds and 400yds is a heck of a long way out of range for most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 your magnification argument is horse poop kent it doesn't work like that in practice. I can categorically state if someone was on the back of my pickup with two rifles one with my scope and one with an 8x I know which they would prefer there is no contest. Shooting even at 250 yards under a lamp the more magnification the better to a point, after a decent rangy one we will often check what the scope has been taken up to and it can be quite surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 your magnification argument is horse poop kent it doesn't work like that in practice. I can categorically state if someone was on the back of my pickup with two rifles one with my scope and one with an 8x I know which they would prefer there is no contest. Shooting even at 250 yards under a lamp the more magnification the better to a point, after a decent rangy one we will often check what the scope has been taken up to and it can be quite surprising. Well i disagree and you pose a less than convincing argument with "it doesn't work like that" because quite simply it does! 4x is 4 times magnification 8x is 8 times magnified it dont take a scientist to work out that objects magnified at 8x appear twice the size of those at 4x and hence appear only half as far. the size of the object is in direct corrolation to the mag setting. Say why not rather than saying my argument is "poop" and show us all how much you know on this subject please More magnification equals narrower field of view and hence slower target aquisision fairly important things to my mind when the lamp is not in use - the higher the mag the lower the exit pupil becomes and hence the ability of the human eye to take in the light if shooting in twilight. 4x32, 6x42, 7x50 and the 8x 56 all have the same exit pupil after 56mm scope objective size limits magnification. Twice this last week i sat over a bait with my 3-12x 50mm S+Bender set on 7x to this very end mind you i have only owned this scope for a decade and only dialed it up to max maybee three or four times Although i have owned quite a few very high mag scopes thinking 32X stuff here i have never seen the requirement for over 12x on a foxing or deer rifle personally but then again i tend to identify the target before pointing my gun at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 ah back to being a pretentious idiot as usual but as we know one who doesn't shoot many foxes I would argue the last bit but you will only twist it so back to being on the ignore list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 ah back to being a pretentious idiot as usual but as we know one who doesn't shoot many foxes I would argue the last bit but you will only twist it so back to being on the ignore list Now there is a reasoned argument why do you keep making things up about me you have nil knoledge of how many foxes i have shot, snared etc over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Well I'd say I shoot a lot of foxes and I shoot the magical 300meter foxes to under the lamp. I use 12x mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Well I'd say I shoot a lot of foxes and I shoot the magical 300meter foxes to under the lamp. I use 12x mag. I'd lay money on if you had the option of 12x or a zeiss victory 6-24x50 you would use the latter scope and find you were using more than 12 for the longer shots. The fundamentals are though 8x56 are a great scope but for foxing most move on and get a variable. Deer they are fantastic but foxing it just helps to have a variable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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