longrangesniper1953 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Dear Steve, Thanks for signing my petition, "Scottish Government: To drop all proposals to licence air weapons in Scotland." Can you help this petition win by asking your friends to sign too? It's easy to share with your friends on Facebook - just click here to share the petition on Facebook. There's also a sample email below that you can forward to your friends. Thanks again -- together we're making change happen, No to airgun licensing Scotland --------- Note to forward to your friends: Hi! I just signed the petition "Scottish Government: To drop all proposals to licence air weapons in Scotland" on Change.org. It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link: http://www.change.or...ons-in-scotland Thanks! Again Regards Steve Edited January 15, 2013 by longrangesniper1953 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 do you really think this will make any difference i think its gone to far to change anything now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 There has been talk of AirGun Licences in Scotland for several years and I'm at a loss to understand why. The BASC etc has raised issues about this and according to Jan 2103 Modern Gamekeeping there has been a 71% DECREASE in Airgun crime in Scotland in the last 5 years! :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 There has been talk of AirGun Licences in Scotland for several years and I'm at a loss to understand why. The BASC etc has raised issues about this and according to Jan 2103 Modern Gamekeeping there has been a 71% DECREASE in Airgun crime in Scotland in the last 5 years! :hmm: Because Kenny MC******** wants it to become law, to make him look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 This legislation is probably trying to solve a problem that isnt there, but at the risk of getting 'slated' , my opinion is there is no harm in licencing the use of air weapons. It should pose no problem to the responsible air gun user who operates legally, on land where they have permission. If it prevents even one numpty getting hold of one, its worth it as they tar all of us with the same brush, as far as public opinion is concerned. On the other side of the coin though, I realise that those who are not responsible or who do not operate legally will just not bother getting licenced at all. However, this gives the law a stick to beat them with (if caught)!! Which is no bad thing IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondD Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Hi everyone, Just thought I'd introduce myself I'm the person who started this petition and its great to see that it has been shared here. We are drawing ever closer to the consulation closing date so it is really important that we get as many signatures as we can. We are after all supposed to live in a democracy! peek-at- I can understand why you are saying there should be no problem with a licence after all if you are law abiding then it shouldn't be a problem. This is the same excuse trotted out by all the anti gun people out there. It is basicly saying either you go for it or you must have something to hide. This is nonsense. If you take a wee visist to the facebook page I've put up plenty of reasons why this isn't a good or fair idea with statistics and comparisons to back it up. It is simply another attack on law abiding people who will be either forced to give up their sports and hobbies or give up due to increased expense. They want to ban blinking in your own backgarden! Please visit the page and you will see many good topics and discussions on why we must stop this. Thanks again to everyone who has taken the time to sign but please keep spreading the word. Anyone worldwide can sign the petition and UK wide responses to the consultation will be accepted. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Will this make any difference? It should and will if people back these petitions. democracy and all that, the MSP are only there to represent the people, and if they fail to do that they should be prepared to pack us their office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) people could sign it more than once with other email addresses Edited January 27, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaz Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 This legislation is probably trying to solve a problem that isnt there, but at the risk of getting 'slated' , my opinion is there is no harm in licencing the use of air weapons. It should pose no problem to the responsible air gun user who operates legally, on land where they have permission. If it prevents even one numpty getting hold of one, its worth it as they tar all of us with the same brush, as far as public opinion is concerned. On the other side of the coin though, I realise that those who are not responsible or who do not operate legally will just not bother getting licenced at all. However, this gives the law a stick to beat them with (if caught)!! Which is no bad thing IMHO. +1 I can't help but think that this could only be a good thing for our sport, it would give us a better public image by eliminating the idiots that decide the local cat population is on the general licence, taking pop shots at the school geek because he's different, although it would take years to build up a database of air gun serial numbers - it's got to start somewhere. I can't think of any negatives that putting air guns on a licence could bring as long as it isn't used as a money making scheme by governments then to licence a weapon that's capable of firing a projectile/s at around 700fps only makes sense in my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) I can't think of any negatives that putting air guns on a licence could bring as long as it isn't used as a money making scheme by governments then to licence a weapon that's capable of firing a projectile/s at around 700fps only makes sense in my mind extra costs and waiting a year for your licence due to huge admin backlogs Edited January 27, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaz Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 extra costs and waiting a year for your licence due to huge admin backlogs I wouldn't class that as a negative. I'd put in the realms of if/when this came into effect it would need to managed correctly, out of all our hands but perhaps that's where this petition needs to be directed rather than completely opposing the licence. The sgc is cheaper than my fishing licence so I don't see cost being an issue tbh, I would say the average household pays £300-£500 per year to cr&p on tv so another £10 ain't going to break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I wouldn't class that as a negative. I'd put in the realms of if/when this came into effect it would need to managed correctly, like the waits for fire arms licences but with a huge amount of weapons to licence i expect with the cuts managing that will be very low priority so service will be very poor at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiedenny Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 extra costs and waiting a year for your licence due to huge admin backlogs agree, there is no way this can be managed efficiently by an ever reducing force. want your first .22 rifle in kent and you are waiting 6 month if your lucky. I'm not against licensing but until the system can efficiently and correctly deal with the current workload, introducing a huge amount of work is not the answer. If it would have taken me 6 months to get an air rifle license with cabinet, rifle and licensing fees I would never have got started. Instead I ried my cousins 20 year old bsa springer and became quickly hooked now contributing (more than I should) to the shooting economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 would end up having to weight 6months for a gat gun licence ! would a police inspector pop `round to see if its all safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) The problem with licensing is that it will stop a lot of people taking up shooting. Airguns are the way that many shooters start out, introducing licensing will severely restrict the number of people taking up shooting. A lot of people will not be able to deal with the extra cost and even stricter (and unnecessary) requirements and bureaucracy. Besides, what need is there for it? Airgun crime is down by nearly three quarters, proof that existing laws are sufficient. Even at its peak, airgun crime was miniscule compared to the number of airguns out there. And the idiots who currently misuse them are not going to get a license or hand the gun in, are they? Also remember that the proposals here include a ban on plinking in your own garden - even any pro-licensing person should not support this move, so you should still respond to the consultation. And then there's the realistic prospect that it will find its way over into England and Wales. I only support gun control if it is reasonable and is necessary for public safety. Airgun licensing meets neither of these criteria. Edited January 29, 2013 by Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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