dadrew Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 OK, so I just brought myself a second hand Hatsan Escort Camo, Semi Auto for £225. I've only had my licence for a season and surrently own an under and over but wanted this one purley for decoying. Being new to all this I wonder if somebody could explain what it means when it says that it has a 76mm chamber. Its a 12g, so does it accept 12g cartridges or do 12g cartridges come in different sizes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 cartridges come in different sizes it means that your gun will take cartridges up to 3 inches long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Dadrew, 12g cartdriges are all the same in diameter, what changes its the lenght. Your gun says 76mm, that means you can use cartdriges up to 76mm in lenght or 3 inches. You can't use longer cardriges, but you can use shorter ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highbird70 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 You very welcome, thats why this forum is so good, if we can help we will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Good luck with your new gun mate £225 is a bargain I've got an escort for pigeons and love it Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just don't use cartridges that are 65 mm in length as the escorts don't like to cycle them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 As above. Use 70mm (2 3/4") cartridges to avoid the gun jamming, and also make sure that the piston and the gas port holes in the barrel are kept clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy8762 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Not forgetting you can put steel shot through them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Not forgetting you can put steel shot through them..... Well Said that Man: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 OK, so my gun arrived today. Its multi choke so as a newbie, what choke size should I use. I'm sure someones going to say it depends on the range, but Im one of those that cant be changing chokes everytime I go out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 i tend to use half choke mostly in mine. it might be marked as mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy8762 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Half in mine as well....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Just found out that my gun is a magnum after finding the manuals online, is the Magnum a newer/better version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Does it have a streight butt pad or a curved one where it attaches to the stock, do you load the cartridges into the via a button on the side or does it have the quick loading gate underneath, The latest ones also have extended chokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Does it have a streight butt pad or a curved one where it attaches to the stock, do you load the cartridges into the via a button on the side or does it have the quick loading gate underneath, The latest ones also have extended chokes. Think it has a curved buu pad (at work at the minute), bolt release is on the side as oppsed to the loading gate. When you say extended chokes, as far as qantity I have 5 I think, if its by length, Im not sure what the norml length would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 OK so I took my Hatsam=n Escort out for the first time today to the clay range. A ran a box of 70mm, 28g carts though it and had two poor feeds. Anyone of a reason for this, is the load two light maybe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) I ran 250 67 mm 28G Hull Intercomp HV 28G fibre (old stock I had) through mine and had only one jam, which to me was acceptable. I am now using 70 mm 28G english sporters and think I have put around 200 of these through it and not had a jam. Some s/a's are very cartridge fussy and what works in one may not work in another, which make / type of cartridge are you using. As said before is the gun clean including the 2 gas ports and lightly oiled so the gas plug is free to slide up and down the magazine tube. Not up to speed on the varients, and will leave that to others to say which varient it is. Edited February 3, 2013 by BerettaSV10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Its a Hatsan Escort Magnum, MK1 (it has the bolt release on the side). Not sure on the make of cartridge but I know it was 70mm, 28g, and a competion make (the clay ground dont allow game carts). Having just cleaned the gun, iy would appear theat the previous owner didn oil it up as the tiston tube was bone dry, as was the remainder of the gun (I should have preped it myself in fairess, so I only have myself to blame). Either way the gun, including the piston is well oiled. Although I have a manual I am unable to get the bolt assembly out as yet (I think thats just technique !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Been shooting my escort for a bit now One thing that has been ******* me off is it dose not cycle short cartridge less then 70mm or light loads I have keep the gun very clean new O ring and light oil try it all (done a lot of reading up about it in other posts) So i tryed somethink i cut the recoil spring down slowly i cut 1 coil of at a time put some light/short loads in and fired then off at some clays to see how it cycles and it got better and better the more coils i cut off the gun will cycle 65mm and light loads JUST DONT CUT TO MANY COILS OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted February 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 So with all this information, what size cartridges can I us ewith the Escort to bring down pigeons? I'm thinking, 70mm, 32g, No 5 or No 6 shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 So with all this information, what size cartridges can I us ewith the Escort to bring down pigeons? I'm thinking, 70mm, 32g, No 5 or No 6 shot Yes sireeeeee, no mither Atb Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Been shooting my escort for a bit now One thing that has been ******* me off is it dose not cycle short cartridge less then 70mm or light loads I have keep the gun very clean new O ring and light oil try it all (done a lot of reading up about it in other posts) So i tryed somethink i cut the recoil spring down slowly i cut 1 coil of at a time put some light/short loads in and fired then off at some clays to see how it cycles and it got better and better the more coils i cut off the gun will cycle 65mm and light loads JUST DONT CUT TO MANY COILS OFF Why did you not just BUY the lighter spring, they are available: now it will recoil with less pressure on the Spring, magnum may kick like hell: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Did not know they are available got no more kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadrew Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Right, just got back from a morning out with my new (secondhand) Escort, Unfortunatley there was very little to shoot at but still wanted to try the gun out (now that I have the 'O' ring in the correct place and using the right carts. I used 70mm, 28g, No6, Plastic Wad. Put about 30 odd carts thorough it, not one jam. Very happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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