kennel clubs mate check

[busdennis]

we had a litter of cocker pups a few years ago and we are thinking about it again (alredy got 5 but they are only small)

last time we used a ftc from a very reputable kennel but since our last litter the kennel club web site has this "mate check" which can tell you the inbreeding coefficient of potential matings and if we use a ftc the coeffient number is higher than using a perfectly good local stud dog (well breed) without fancy titles

 

the kennel club are trying to reduce the inbreeding coefficient (apparently it has doubled in 10yrs) but most potential buyers prefer to buy something with recent FTC etc

 

if you where buying a pup what would be most important toy you? i know what i think but dont want to struggle selling pups if im wrong

[matthunter49]

that sounds like a load of ****.dogs have breed in this way for many years.depends on what you want out the pups if there going to be pets but her to any old cocker but if you want to keep the pedigree good put her to the best dog you can find

[al4x]

Its an interesting one and a fair bit comes down to so called line breeding, my GWP has a bit of doubling up in her pedigree so on looking for a stud dog I would definitely look to not include similar bred dogs. To me this is common sense the more you interbreed the more chance you have of creating problems. In this breed there have been cases of epilepsy and when you see the pedigrees of the dogs concerned they can be very inbred,

In your case I guess it depends how high the inbreeding coefficient is, its unlikely many will check before buying a pup and with a cocker I would suggest they will be more into the FTCH side than the local dog that you know but they don't

[cocker boy]

The most important thing to me would be what have both parents done to warrant being bred from.

[scotslad]

Depends on wot ur breeding them for, trialling dogs or beating line/working dogs

 

I personally probably would not want a dog full of FTCH makes absolutely no difference to me, as long as it comes from good working stock that u've seen/know off, I have no interest in trialling and think some trialling dogs are actually going away from wot i would look for in a dog. The cockers in paticular are quite inbred, the shooting times wrote an article about it last aug/sept time and the top 6 cocker studs were all in high teens with 3 (all from the same kennel) approaching mid 20's+, .

 

Really u should be using the local dog if it has strengths to compliment ur dogs strengths and weaknesses but unfortunately u will probably shift the pups sired by a trially dog easier, half the reason why dogs are inbred anyway The waythings are unfortunately

[WelshAndy]

not me I'd take a healthy unrelated dog over an inbred FTCh any day.

Edited February 5, 2013 by WelshAndy

[kent]

Consider many of the top trial lines started with a std working dog

[Millomite]

Why not just use a different FTCH? An outcross to the lines in your pedigree?