henry d Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 We are allowed to shoot game birds as per http://www.basc.org.uk/en/departments/game-and-gamekeeping/game-shooting/shooting-seasons.cfm and we are allowed to shoot pest species (find the link yourself) and guinea fowl are poultry http://www.basc.org.uk/en/departments/game-and-gamekeeping/gamekeeping/basc-guidance-for-completing-the-poultry-registration-form.cfm Therefore you can`t shoot them as game, or do you think I am wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) We are allowed to shoot game birds as per http://www.basc.org....ing-seasons.cfm and we are allowed to shoot pest species (find the link yourself) and guinea fowl are poultry http://www.basc.org....ration-form.cfm Therefore you can`t shoot them as game, or do you think I am wrong? hmmm i am sure last time i looked at some oven ready guinea fowl there was a warning on the label "may contain shot" not sure if this is standard label that went on everything though.... As for the sport have a look it seems girlfriends and mini bus occupants aren't the only things people in south africa shoot............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePJEo0aSxPg Edited February 26, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Ok, I'm the first to admit that I know very little about Guinea Fowl, but I am convinced I saw a group of around 8 wondering around yesterday. I know they are farmed in the UK, and I have the likes of Ostrich, Llama, Alpaca etc farms in my areas, so it would not surprise me if there was a Guinea Fowl farm as well, but these were out and about. Would they wonder then go home? It also goes through my mind that if they are here, then surely some must have got into the wild. Do any of you know of "wild" populations around the UK, or indeed have any of you seen the odd Guinea Fowl wondering around, or even shot one? The village in Lancashire where I used to live has a group of 'feral' guinea fowl. They have been there for about four years and appear to have bred. I think the locals feed them. I've see them on my former premises and I have to say if they'd been there when I was living there, someof them wuld've gone in the pot. I tried to find out how they arrived i the village and was told someone introduced them 'as a practical joke.'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) We are allowed to shoot game birds as per http://www.basc.org....ing-seasons.cfm and we are allowed to shoot pest species (find the link yourself) and guinea fowl are poultry http://www.basc.org....ration-form.cfm Therefore you can`t shoot them as game, or do you think I am wrong? I don't know is the answer, they are non indigenous, why then would Section 14 W & C Act not cover them as non indigenous? I simply don't know, the GL doesn't mention them (as far as I remember)..... nothing I can see so far says you definitely can or definitely can't! :hmm: If you have a large farm where you own Guinea Fowl what is there to stop you walking around and shooting them, or even asking your neighbour to shoot them if they have escaped onto his land? What is different to that and asking a Gamekeeper/Pest Controller to shoot them? I'm after a debate here and hopefully an answer, not an argument, like I said I don't know, if anyone can spell this out for me I'd be grateful. Edited February 26, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 there was a small article about the legallities of shooting them in one of the shooting mags a few months back and Henryd is correct in what he says they calssed as poultry according to the law, that said given half a chance i would like to chuck one in the oven an give em a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 there was a small article about the legallities of shooting them in one of the shooting mags a few months back and Henryd is correct in what he says they calssed as poultry according to the law, that said given half a chance i would like to chuck one in the oven an give em a try If anyone could find a link I'd be grateful! :hmm: If you have a large farm where you own Guinea Fowl (Poultry?) what is there to stop you walking around and shooting them, or even asking your neighbour to shoot them if they have escaped onto his land? What is different to that and asking a Gamekeeper/Pest Controller to shoot them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 i will have a look later when i get home if i still have it i think it was in one of the xmas issues maybe sporting gun or the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 just found this? http://www.naturenet.net/law/birds.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 just found this? http://www.naturenet.../law/birds.html :good: Cheers! Ok, thats some progress, they seem to be Poultry and not therefore covered by the W & C Act, that answers some questions. Poultry are domestic fowl, geese, ducks, guinea fowl, pigeons, quail and turkey, but as Poultry, I don't know why we can't shoot them if we want? Sorry, I never intended this thread to take this route but now I'm interested! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 if guinea fowl are as it states below Poultry and in the same class as ducks & pigeons surly there is no reason why they can't be shot for sport or crop protection ? Naturenet: Wild Birds and the Law Poultry are domestic fowl, geese, ducks, guinea fowl, pigeons, quail and turkey. Shooting seasons Pages marked with this symbol are exclusively written for ... www.naturenet.net/law/birds.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 There's a number of these that roam about on Galleywood Common near Chelmsford. A local householder keeps them but let's them roam free. There's another place on the outskirts of Epping where someone keeps them along with geese and chickens and lets them 'free range' in part of the forest. I know that Epping small holding well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 They dont scratch the ground like poultry and are very good at getting bugs of the leaves of crops in the states the farms have flocks walking the field clearing all the bugs so they do not use pesticides the ones i gave to the local estate you still see on the road and they have shot a few but you pay a penalty and yes they fly very well as good as pheasants the noise they make will keep charlie away from your pens and anything else come to that if they are close to the house you will hear them as soon as charlie walks up the road or across the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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