Twistedsanity Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I'm a bit of a newbie to the world of shotguns but I've been bunny bashing with air rifles for a few years now, anyway I have decided to get rid of my two PCP's and invest in a shottie for the bunnys . I have a new 12g Silver pigeon which I use for clays but want something quieter for Bugs and company so as not to disrupt and scare to bits the stable girls on the farm I shoot at . I have heard 410's described as kiddies guns and been told by my RFD that the 12g mossberg hushpower pumps aren't very quiet so what's the payoff with a 20 or a 410 ? I guess I will be down on power and pattern spread from the 12g but can a 410 still bash bunnies well at 40yrds? Would a 20g give me more range or just a bigger pattern? What about cartrige prices as well, is a 410 cheaper than a 20g ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 To be honest, id keep a PCP for the bunnies, i find my pcp is better than my moderated mossberg .410 in the field and a lot quieter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 12gauges are quiet, just buy the right cartridges. as for feeding them, that can be an issue. the 12gauge can shoot rabbits to 40yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 The .410 can prove very deadly and a lot lighter / faster. I lamp with an un-moderated .410, shooting it one handed quite often, the shells are dearer to buy but a lot cheaper to roll your own due to lesser amounts of consumables. Play off is range 25 yrds max, better 15-20 IMO but anything reasonable size is very dead, after that the pattern lacks density from mine. As a pest gun they are quite dandy but either I can shoot better or respect my ranges more? perhaps the ammo has improved? but I had them into my late teens and found them very poor killers- amazed at the results I get now mind you. Seriously thinking of a nice 28 bore double one day for a walking- out gun on rabbits as a result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 All the guages have the same basic velocity so using the same size shot they go the same range, the difference is the pattern which will be quite nearly the same in diameter for a given choke but far less dense due to the different weights of ammo used, so whilst a 12g and 410 using the same weight ammo say 14 gram will be very close to the same it's more normal to have the 12g using 28-32gram ammo so a much larger amount of shot in the pattern If you see someone shooting at sporting clays you will probably be suprised at the range they kill a clay at, but may only hit with one shot where as the 12g may have 3 or 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Personally I would stick with the rifles. Maybe think about the rimfire option but you will find any moderated shotgun very different to shoot. I had a 20g Investarm which was like shooting with a drainpipe and it also shot low. I got used to it but its not easy to be consistent with them. GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00buck Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Get a 20g I think they are better than the 410 I have both but use the 20g single for lamping But eley hushpower ammo is not that good I use 30gram 5 shot gamebore hushpower They work for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greener86 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I would steer clear of the mossberg 20g hushpower to heavy and clumbersome to be walking around with and sitting in a hide I have Owned one not for me I.ve got the 410. Hushpower pedretti 28" barrels not that impressed yes it quiet with 2 1/2 " cart but range 20 yards . P c p. better more range alot quieter more pigeons for the freezer with the s410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00buck Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 The pcp is a good tool but no good if they all run My 20g will take them at 40yards +. Also get the odd fox When out lamping so if you have the right shot ammo with you You can take him to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new shot Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I sold my aa s410 a got a weirauch 97 and had it tuned,it is good for sitting pigeons etc to 40 yards but when in flight it became frustrating as you cant shoot them. I got a pedretti 410 which is quiet but range not so good..so i then got myself a 20g o/u hushpower which although a bit cumbersome its more effective especially with the extra shot. But as one of the other guys said a rimfire is best for rabbits but if your like me i cant get anyone to grant me permission for one..if i were you keep an air rifle and get a 410 pedretti which can be had for £200-250 and keep a sensible distance and ambush them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 http://www.saddleryandgunroom.co.uk/Gunroom/SG_Hushpower.htm is the link you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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