subsonicnat Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) Loss of faith with pellets, Have you noticed NOT All shots a really bang on when firing air rifles. . Pellet wheight, Skirt , slightly squashed, Etc they are all variables, I can put two or three through the same hole almost, but the fliers continue to rear their ugly heads, So the pellet is the problem most of the time, yes I can be off but even blokes who are trying to sell an air rifle do not get it right all the time, about time they came up with something a bit more special after all these years eh... Edited May 9, 2013 by subsonicnat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Buy the pellet that gives the best results in your particular gun then buy as many from the same batch as you can-you can still buy Sizers that you can push your pellets thru to ensure that they are all good-Size em then store them in foam or similar if you can be bothered.I use AA fields and could not say,hand on heart,that the quality (or lack of it) has ever caused me to miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Have a look a www.pelletperfect.co.uk I find Crossman premier ultra magnums. RWS Superdome and RWS Superfields. Very consistent and accurate good quality and well finished pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garden gun Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 RWS pellets are very well finished. No swarf in the tin, no oxidizing, flyers not eliminated but usually down to snatching the trigger or other operator errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 That is why I buy Crosman Premier Ultra Magnums and Crosman Premiers in cardboard boxes. In over 2 years of using them I have found one, that is right, one, unusable pellet! The weights are pretty consistent, throughout a tin and they work in my guns so happy chappy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 most skirt dents are blown out when fired, but ues i agree with modern technology pellets should be supper consistant by now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Thanks lads, Like previous post, it seems the Pellets have not come of age, like the air rifles have, shame that: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 In my experience JSB pellets are awesome quality, all my guns seem to like them, and you don't get many fliers. A lot of people swear by crossman premiers, but they would only group in my PCP. Unfortunately JSB's are expensive for me because my local doesn't stock them. You also regularly hear god things from air arms field diablo's Even if they are made to precision in the factory, they get damaged while shipped, damaged in transport, damage when you accidentally drop the tin, so you have to expect a few fliers, but just survey each pellet carefully when loading and you can avoid this. More than once when hunting Ive put a pellet in the pellet tray only then to notice a major deformity. This day and age you would have thought they could come up with a be all end all alloy for pellets, but if they did the price would be ridiculous, so instead they try and sell us these Prometheus, and lead free pellets ( which in my experience have been rubbish ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 my air rifle is extremely pellet fussy but shoots webley accupells and powerpells very well. They seem to work well in most rifles. That is why I buy Crosman Premier Ultra Magnums and Crosman Premiers in cardboard boxes. In over 2 years of using them I have found one, that is right, one, unusable pellet! The weights are pretty consistent, throughout a tin and they work in my guns so happy chappy! I think they are the same as accupells just different packaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 my air rifle is extremely pellet fussy but shoots webley accupells and powerpells very well. They seem to work well in most rifles. I think they are the same as accupells just different packaging. They are, the Accupells are put into Webley Acupell tins and sold for more money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.R.S Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I have been using JSB Exacts 4.52 in 177 flavour with my hw100kt for the last 2 years.Last week I got 2 new tins and tested them out.They were all over the place I couldnt get more than 3 pellets to group in a 10p sized target at 35 yards.So I cleaned the barrel and tried again.Still the same. My Dad uses accupells so I got 40 or 50 off him to try out.I didnt clean my barrel and just went and tried them out.They were brilliant.Yesterday On my way to work I stopped off and got 2 tins of accupells so I could do some proper tests whilst at work last night.After some slight adjustments to my zero at 35 yards I was grouping all 14 of my shots inside a 5p sized target.Then from 50 yards I was getting a 10p sized group with only 1 or 2 straying outside. Accupells are now my pellet of choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Try Crosman Premiers if the 7.9 grain or Ultra Magnums if the 10.5 grains! Same pellet, just cheaper, could be a couple of quid difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.R.S Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Cheers mate They are the 7.9 grain so will get a tin or 2 of the crossman Premiers next time.I paid £7.50 a tin for the Accupells yesterday.I have seen them for more in other gun shops around here.What do you normaly pay for Crossman Prem? Try Crosman Premiers if the 7.9 grain or Ultra Magnums if the 10.5 grains! Same pellet, just cheaper, could be a couple of quid difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Depends which ones. Yes there are 2 sorts. 1) Cardboard Boxed versions. These are boxed in 1250s, so they may appear expensive! They are all made from the same die, so every pellet is i bleeding dentical! These are sought by target shooters who buy loads of one die and get set up for that pellet (yes they can be that bad)! 2) Twist tin version These are just called the domed. Tin of 500 pellets, 7.9 grain, these are the Accupells! These are the cheapies, available from Uttings for £5.49 per tin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I have been paying £10.00 for 250 of the 18 grain: Diablo field Heavy. Not bad but still fliers, tried a light wheight pellet, funny thing was the FTLBs went down as well, I thought they would speed up, but as said the velocity went down, curious Eh.?; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I have been using JSB Exacts 4.52 in 177 flavour with my hw100kt for the last 2 years.Last week I got 2 new tins and tested them out.They were all over the place I couldnt get more than 3 pellets to group in a 10p sized target at 35 yards.So I cleaned the barrel and tried again.Still the same. My Dad uses accupells so I got 40 or 50 off him to try out.I didnt clean my barrel and just went and tried them out.They were brilliant.Yesterday On my way to work I stopped off and got 2 tins of accupells so I could do some proper tests whilst at work last night.After some slight adjustments to my zero at 35 yards I was grouping all 14 of my shots inside a 5p sized target.Then from 50 yards I was getting a 10p sized group with only 1 or 2 straying outside. Accupells are now my pellet of choice any chance of an un edited video,cos if they are that good I,ll buy a few tins to try out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) Prometheus Defiants, .177 (4.5mm) in a Daystate X2, lasered 35m! 10 shot grouping. Prometheus work well if your gun likes them! Edited May 14, 2013 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.R.S Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 any chance of an un edited video,cos if they are that good I,ll buy a few tins to try out Hiya Bob.I am back on nights again in 10 days time.I will take my cam corder in with me and do a vid on the indoor range.I also want to get the Heavy ultra magnums to try out.So will do a vid on those too.I dont know whats up with the JSB's .I have used them for nearly 2 years with no problems.But the 2 new tins I got would not group. Thats a really good group SecretAgentMole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Damned good gun that X2, traded it for my Super 10, got myself a Mark 3 now, so will dig the Prometheus out soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hiya Bob.I am back on nights again in 10 days time.I will take my cam corder in with me and do a vid on the indoor range.I also want to get the Heavy ultra magnums to try out.So will do a vid on those too.I dont know whats up with the JSB's .I have used them for nearly 2 years with no problems.But the 2 new tins I got would not group. Thats a really good group SecretAgentMole no probs mate look forward to it,i,m always interested in trying new pellets but have to be honest,so far I have not found any that will match the JSB Exact,s 15.89g in the huntsman and that even includes the RWS Superfield,yet they work well in the s410, all the best Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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