scimitar Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Ed Balls comments on needing to spend more money at first seems beyond madness. However what he is saying, subliminally, to the sort of people who would be likely to vote for him is we will re-start the gravy train. We will up the benefits and dream up new ones, we will stop trying to root out the bogus claimants and we will open the immigration floodgates even wider. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS VOTE LABOUR AND THE MONEY'S YOURS. Too true, during the recent south shields by-election one of the main policies the canvassers talked about was removing the 25000 cap on benefits. Basically telling the wasters vote for us and we'll see you alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) I suppose it's easy to be picky with your principles when you have the money to choose fashionable causes and you only live in the country for the maximum number of days in a year your tax breaks allow! It's time this country forgot everbody elses problems and got our own house in order. well said.my thoughts exactly Edited May 15, 2013 by besty57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) yeh, how despicable, and i remember the leftys saying that thatchers right to buy was all about votes. It was, but i would say it was a bit more of a positive way of going about things compared to the deliberate destruction of the country wouldnt you agree? Destruction of the country is right. It will be physical destruction. Migrationwatch UK has calculated that to house the mean annual numbers who have been coming here since 2008 and their offspring, who will automatically become full British citizens, one home willl need to be built every six minutes for the next 20 years. (Government and EU migration estimates - when they're not too embarrassed to publish any - conveniently ignore the fact that people breed and numbers rise exponentially. And they breed like rats in a sewer when they are paid with tax payers money to do so.) That's several large cities the size of Birmingham, and that is before the Bulgarian and Romanian influx that will arrive next year, and before the housing needs of British citizens are met. What this means in reality is a country that exceeds the population density of India or Japan by 2050. By then Britain will be a county of 100 million. There will be no countryside as we know it now. Such as is left will be little more than urban parkland crawling with humanity and befouled by dogs. That process has already begun with a tide of white-flight urban migrants who have swollen villages into suburbs and claimed the surrounding farmland as a reacreational facility. It is going to get much, much worse. Britian will become a city state, with little agriculture and certainly no shooting, feeding itself from poly-tunnels and East African imports. Labour always had ambitions to change the population of the countryside which stubbornly refused to vote correctly. This is their revenge and they will get away with it because the majority of people in Britain will know no other existance and so will not question it or will deny what it is happening. I expect we will see evidence af that process already at work shortly on this thread after this post. Edited May 15, 2013 by Gimlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Destruction of the country is right. It will be physical destruction. Migrationwatch UK has calculated that to house the mean annual numbers who have been coming here since 2008 and their offspring, who will automatically become full British citizens, one home willl need to be built every six minutes for the next 20 years. (Government and EU migration estimates - when they're not too embarrassed to publish any - conveniently ignore the fact that people breed and numbers rise exponentially. And they breed like rats in a sewer when they are paid with tax payers money to do so.) That's several large cities the size of Birmingham, and that is before the Bulgarian and Romanian influx that will arrive next year, and before the housing needs of British citizens are met. What this means in reality is a country that exceeds the population density of India or Japan by 2050. By then Britain will be a county of 100 million. There will be no countryside as we know it now. Such as is left will be little more than urban parkland crawling with humanity and befouled by dogs. That process has already begun with a tide of white-flight urban migrants who have swollen villages into suburbs and claimed the surrounding farmland as a reacreational facility. It is going to get much, much worse. Britian will become a city state, with little agriculture and certainly no shooting, feeding itself from poly-tunnels and East African imports. Labour always had ambitions to change the population of the countryside which stubbornly refused to vote correctly. This is their revenge and they will get away with it because the majority of people in Britain will know no other existance and so will not question it or will deny what it is happening. I expect we will see evidence af that process already at work shortly on this thread after this post. There was me thinking nobody else could see it!! The only problem is that in expressing such views you/we will be marked as extremists rather than truly concerned realists who are worried about the legacy future generations are going to inherit from these ridiculous policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 There was to be no benefit from the mass immigration, it was a Labour / Liberal / Socialist experiment at at blending cultures in the hope that the immigrants and newly formed underclass would keep Labour in power for long enough to create a multicultural state with the population reliant on the state. Sadly this was not the case. Most first generation immigrants vote for:- a) The party that was in power at the time . b) Left of centre parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 You are far from being the only ones. There was me thinking nobody else could see it!! The only problem is that in expressing such views you/we will be marked as extremists rather than truly concerned realists who are worried about the legacy future generations are going to inherit from these ridiculous policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 You are far from being the only ones. There must be something that can be done to show the level of public discontent other than just wasting a vote on UKIP? Maybe a big march in the middle of London? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 There must be something that can be done to show the level of public discontent other than just wasting a vote on UKIP? Maybe a big march in the middle of London? Nah, only racists and extremists would attend that I think that my generation are the last that can remember living in real Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Nah, only racists and extremists would attend that That may well have been the case a few years ago but don't you think that the massive number of votes UKIP got recently suggests that more of the genuinely concerned populace are prepared to make their views known? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I think the Ukip way is the best. The local results have scared the Tories/Labour. There must be something that can be done to show the level of public discontent other than just wasting a vote on UKIP? Maybe a big march in the middle of London? Yes, I think that you are right. The wrong sorts would turn out, EDF and BNP types. Nah, only racists and extremists would attend that I think that my generation are the last that can remember living in real Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I think the Ukip way is the best. The local results have scared the Tories/Labour. Yes, I think that you are right. The wrong sorts would turn out, EDF and BNP types. The UKIP jolt at local level was fine but they don't have the people to fight a general election. Farage is a real character but I don't think he is actually looking to form a government. I will drop him a line and see if he has any ideas of what else might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) I agree with that Ukip (as yet) don't have the numbers to fight a GE, but they appear to have influence via the noises folk are making about them which helps immensely. I like to think the Tories would have done more if not shackled by Clegg, et al. The UKIP jolt at local level was fine but they don't have the people to fight a general election. Farage is a real character but I don't think he is actually looking to form a government. I will drop him a line and see if he has any ideas of what else might work. Edited May 15, 2013 by Penelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I agree with that Ukip (as yet) don't have the numbers to fight a GE, but they appear to have influence via the noises folk are making about them which helps immensely. I like to think the Tories would have done more if not shackled by Clegg, et al. I'm personally concerned that they might not have the expertise to manage the financial side of things but if they implemented some of their key initiatives it would be a fantastic swing towards the views of the genuine people in this country. Their best value at the moment is in putting pressure on the other parties to take note of public opinions on some of the key issues IMVHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 The racist / extremist comment was made in jest as that is what the left would attempt to label you as for caring about your country, I think it would be fantastic for the country to be able to express their displeasure at the way things are going like the French and Spanish do. Leaders in this country know the population in general just bend over and take what ever they want to give. I think that UKIP may be inexperienced but I don't think they could any worse than people who plotted to ruin the country especially if they could get a Tory cast off to run the financial side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Indeed. I'm personally concerned that they might not have the expertise to manage the financial side of things but if they implemented some of their key initiatives it would be a fantastic swing towards the views of the genuine people in this country. Their best value at the moment is in putting pressure on the other parties to take note of public opinions on some of the key issues IMVHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 This thread is missing a couple of certain members who will defend immigration to the death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Labour-hang your heads in shame?Don't be silly! They're politicians,they have no inkling of what the word means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I'm personally concerned that they might not have the expertise to manage the financial side of things but if they implemented some of their key initiatives it would be a fantastic swing towards the views of the genuine people in this country. Their best value at the moment is in putting pressure on the other parties to take note of public opinions on some of the key issues IMVHO. Indeed.Here, Here ATB Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 This thread is missing a couple of certain members who will defend immigration to the death The silence speaks volumes, it's impossible to defend the indefenceable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I bet B-liar and Brown they are really proud of the Great Britain that they have created today, well done lads!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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