sable Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 hello can anyone help with information what criteria is requared to get a fac air rifle i own a small plot of land its about 350 yards long but only about 50 yards wide sorounded by fields overgrown and full of trees i go up with the 410 but i whould prefer air rifle shooting to 100 yards i also have permision on some cricket grounds will i be wasting my money applying for a fac air rifle thanks fo any info love the site by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Can you not manage with a decent sub 12ft/lb air rifle? pcp To get an fac air rifle is a whole lot of bother , fac application, cabinet, references Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 i was hoping to import from america just for fun i have sub 12ft they do the job only to 50 yrds and some of the american bespoke jobs with the moulds to make amo are pin ***** acurate and i dont mind paying 3000 its cheaper than a fishing setup and it will see me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 :shocked: 3000 ? what? Dollars, Pounds :unsure: If you really feel you need an FAC air rifle then you can pick up a good deal through the likes of gunwatch or guntrader, Sometimes for LESS than the same rifle in sub 12ft/lb as the market for fac air isn't as wide, fac air isn't going to give you a huge improvement over the 50yrds there has been several topics on the subject of range fairly recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 i was thinking more quackanbush its the importing thats going to cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Your must be 'Quackers' if you think you're going to get granted an FAC for a .458 calibre air rifle, regardless of the size of your 'plot'. What's going to be your justification for this? Giant rabbits? Loopy-la-la-land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailormadefun Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 you are better off getting a .22 pushing 40ft/lbs, but that will prob only get you out to 80 or so yards. what are you gonna be shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Gruffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 hello can anyone help with information what criteria is requared to get a fac air rifle i own a small plot of land its about 350 yards long but only about 50 yards wide sorounded by fields overgrown and full of trees i go up with the 410 but i whould prefer air rifle shooting to 100 yards i also have permision on some cricket grounds will i be wasting my money applying for a fac air rifle thanks fo any info love the site by the way Frankly you are pushing your luck on conventional FAC air rifles if you expect 100 yards, you will also be spending a fortune (which apparently doesn't bother you) to achieve this. Personally, I think the odds of you getting it if you put the above scenario to your region is also likely to be slim, but who knows, why don't you ask them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleamonn Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Sable - I think the thing that the other posters have not really made clear (although Mick Miller did allude to it) is that, when you apply for an FAC you need to have 'good reason' and, in my opinion, you don't - certainly not to buy an air rifle that is capable of killing bears and bison. If you are looking at an air rifle that will shoot and kill at 100yds you may be better to consider a Daystate Wolverine. It fires a .303 pellet and would do the job you are looking for. However, were I your FEO, I would be concerned about the possibility of you 'over-shooting' your plot. Still, as Dekers said, there is no harm in asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Given that the plot is 50 yards wide, I would doubt whether it would be considered suitable for FAC air anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 you are proberly right needs more thought but targets not live game i was thinking about building a sand back stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 If you have a PCP already you can easily convert it to FAC and register it. Although it will make it instantly lose value. To be honest though sounds like you'd be better off with a .22lr or a .17hmr rifle. A .22lr with subsonic ammo isn't much louder or more powerful than a high spec fac air rifle and it is a lot cheaper and more practical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleamonn Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Well, in that case, you may want to consider going down the route of joining a club with suitable facilities to shoot whatever it is you buy. That will give you the good reason you'll need to own the rifle. Then, once you've got it, you could call in the FEO and ask his opinion on turning your plot into your personal shooting range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 that's a really good idea! ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleamonn Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 If you have a PCP already you can easily convert it to FAC and register it. Although it will make it instantly lose value. To be honest though sounds like you'd be better off with a .22lr or a .17hmr rifle. A .22lr with subsonic ammo isn't much louder or more powerful than a high spec fac air rifle and it is a lot cheaper and more practical! I think it needs to be done the other way around - he will need to apply for an FAC and then have the gun converted otherwise there is the danger that he will be refused an FAC and then be stuck with an overpowered gun that he can't take delivery of but must pay for the conversion and then sell at a loss. Regarding the idea of going for a rimmie or a .17 instead, it is a valid point. However, I suspect that the rimmie's bad habit of sending rounds ricocheting all over the place, may make the success of an application for a .17 more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleamonn Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) that's a really good idea! ^ Thank you - Yes, I do have my moments. Sadly, however, they are few and far between. Now I need to retire to a darkened room to recover from my efforts. Edited May 28, 2013 by pauleamonn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weihrauch hw100 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 this topic is more nutty than a squirrels ****.ive struggled with an fac to cover 450 acres.dont think 50 yards will quallify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleamonn Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 this topic is more nutty than a squirrels ****.ive struggled with an fac to cover 450 acres.dont think 50 yards will quallify Yeah, my FEO was a lot happier with my application once he'd realised that I had 1000 acres to shoot on and that he already knew that it had been cleared for .243. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 stick to 12ftlb mate the odds seem against fac being granted without adequate land and reason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I think it needs to be done the other way around - he will need to apply for an FAC and then have the gun converted otherwise there is the danger that he will be refused an FAC and then be stuck with an overpowered gun that he can't take delivery of but must pay for the conversion and then sell at a loss. Regarding the idea of going for a rimmie or a .17 instead, it is a valid point. However, I suspect that the rimmie's bad habit of sending rounds ricocheting all over the place, may make the success of an application for a .17 more likely. Funnily enough, if you actually hit your quarry any possibility of a ricochet is dramatically reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 some very good ideas thanks think first step look for a gun club thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Your land is 100yds long & 50yds wide........... Cant you just plot up half way along its length ? you will then cover 50yds each way & across. I would say a decent sub 12 ft/lbs air rifle would do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 no you miss read 350 long 50 wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 dont even think of a rimfire pal what ever you do on that width, you have 100 percent no chance,an fac air who knows, but you will be shocked what you can kill with a 12 ftlb gun, i use them all in the right place at the right time, cheers simon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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