4x4

[il cacciatore]

I put it to the infinite wisdom of PW.

 

If you were going to choose between these 4x4s, what one would you get? Not speaking of the new hi luxs but the old style mk1 (late 80's)

 

Looking at it like this:

 

Landy probably in general all round work needing done

Hilux with body rusted to hell.

Not much difference in price between the two.

 

Just wondering because at some point I would like to get a cheap 4x4 for shooting use.

[Baldrick]

The inherent reliability of the Japanese Hi-Lux makes it more preferable than a Series Landy. You can live with the rusting panels on the Hi-Lux. You might be driven mad, and to bankruptcy, by the less-than-reliable Landy.

[Devon Fox]

I voted with my brain and not my heart, saving my cash for an old knock about hilux!

[il cacciatore]

Yeh, I think I would go for a hilux no matter how much I like the idea of an old land-rover.

 

There is one near me for £600 no MOT or tax, footwells rusted. 1990 2.4d with various new bits. 140,000 miles.

 

Though rust is the number one concern. Havent went to see it but got a feeling that it's knackered.

[al4x]

I'd think twice about buying an old scottish Hi-lux as it will be rusted to hell due to the harsher weather and more salt on the roads than down south. But then I'd never want an old Landie too uncomfortable and unreliable and **** fuel wise. We use an old suzuki SJ for lamping and thats rusty to the point where we've had to put a board in the back, but never fails to start goes anywhere and the economy is pretty good as well

[luckytrigger]

I use a vitara at the moment as its all i can afford in my 2 car family does the job and is ultra reliable. Would love a 'landy' though even though they have a bit of a rep for unreliability...... I drove clapped out defender 90's( never had a breakdown) in the gulf and loved them, even down to the 'stick in toffee' gearbox lol.

[moucher]

Defender 90 200tdi

 

moucher

[Suffolk shooter]

IMO I would go with a landy every time. Cheap parts, easy to fix even for a novice, doesn't rust, built for the purpose of off roading, not like the wannabe japanese motors. (Before people start complaining, I own one of each )

 

I have a Defender 110 3.5L V8 CSW, which has been through rivers, floods, up mountains, through forests, scrub, fields, mud, bogs, Salt Marshes you name it It's done it.

 

My Honda CRV, I use for day to day driving for work and family outings will do fields, small streams etc.

 

If you want good bargain prices, then Landys the beast to get. Get yourself down to the Sodbury Sortout (Landy Parts Show) held at Newbury Showground, Berks twice a year (Normally April and Oct). Every type of body part, engine part, you can ever want for a landy. Plus there are normally a couple of militaria stalls which do good camo net prices, hide poles, small portable stoves, good outdoor camo gear.

 

This is a big event for Landrovers only, don't see that happening for Jap vehicles do ya!!!!!!

[Devon Fox]

Does anyone remember only fools and horses, when trigger talked about having the same broom for 20 odd years, its had 5 new handles and 10 new broom heads !

 

I love the Landy,but you have to be an enthusiast to maintain and run an old boy!

 

The best off roader i have had was an old sub' brat, now that thing went like the clappers and could go anywhere, shame you cant get them anymore!

[al4x]

Landrover bodies may not rust but the chasis certainly does!

[davo]

I'd think twice about buying an old scottish Hi-lux as it will be rusted to hell due to the harsher weather and more salt on the roads than down south. But then I'd never want an old Landie too uncomfortable and unreliable and **** fuel wise. We use an old suzuki SJ for lamping and thats rusty to the point where we've had to put a board in the back, but never fails to start goes anywhere and the economy is pretty good as well

 

? Here's me living north of the border and I never realised I lived in the arctic.

Where is all this "harsher weather" and knee deep salt that rots all our cars???

[bobt]

For the money why not look at a Disco or Range rover?

 

I bought a 1994 200tdi for £650 this year, £100 to get it through a test.

 

it can sit around and be used for towing/dog carrying etc.

 

btw landrover insurance can be had for £100 or so as a limited miled policy, try that on a toymota.

[antuk99]

I voted series 1 cos it will sell for most of thse added togethes a nice 80" swb no a landy man through and through voted with my heart and brains

[Fenlander]

I used to love Landrovers!

 

until I bought one

 

If going up a slight hill,by the time I changed from 2nd gear into 3rd,id be going so slow i'd need to be back in 2nd

 

The bloody thing was permently steamed up, as the heater wouldnt blow a match out

 

it was like sitting in a cave ,it was so damp in it

 

The only good thing about it was, it was so bloody noisey ,I could'nt hear the wife moaning at me for looking in fields instead of at the road

[kipper]

I used to love Landrovers!

 

until I bought one

 

If going up a slight hill,by the time I changed from 2nd gear into 3rd,id be going so slow i'd need to be back in 2nd

 

The bloody thing was permently steamed up, as the heater wouldnt blow a match out

 

it was like sitting in a cave ,it was so damp in it

 

The only good thing about it was, it was so bloody noisey ,I could'nt hear the wife moaning at me for looking in fields instead of at the road

Thats got to be an advantage.

 

Kipper

[il cacciatore]

Old range rovers go real cheap now. Though isn't the petrol consumption ridiculous with them?

[al4x]

yep it certainly is, get a hi-lux then make yourself a bench seat to go in the back and you have pretty much the best lamping vehicle there is

[Finnclassic]

I am new here, a refugee from elsewhere.

 

No-one got a G wagen here then? Love mine, 20 years old, chassis like new because its galvanised and twice as strong as a landy. Diff locks front and rear plus 4 wheel locking. Can knock in and out of 4x4 at speed. Comfortable, spacious, excellent heaters and get in and more importantly out of deep stushy no bother. Used in mountain terrain regularly.

[il cacciatore]

Aye but they cost a Mint!

 

Welcome to the forum!!

[Finnclassic]

Aye but they cost a Mint!

 

Welcome to the forum!!

 

 

Thanks for the welcome!

 

My G cost £500 needing clutch, exhaust, run of the mill things that had been neglected. I spent £2000 on it and in ten years it'll still be worth a 4 figure sum if I do my bit. It has been in some amazing places and still got out.

 

By far the worst was coming down to the riverside cattle field on a wet night off a steep grass hill. As we approached the flat it just looked black, at which point we realised it was water and there was no way back up. I hit all difflocks, and transfer box was in low any way. I put in second and gunned it. Half a mile of flat cattle trodden river bank land under a foot or so of flood water between us and the gate. It made it with the proverbial flying in all directions. The water was coming in the door seals at deeper bits and there was some concern among the crew that were going to be in deep **** - pardon the pun.

 

Downside, it stank of cow****e for 3 weeks. But it proved itself as I would not have wanted to stay where we were!

[darebear]

duh. hi lux.

 

its faster anddddd looks better

[Finnclassic]

Ive had that taunt from several jap 4x4 owners. I had the last laugh. I remember pulling a certain 'prepared' Rangy out of deep shtooshy (cant say the other word in here), just to make a point I went uphill of it and pulled it out uphill (albeit not steep) in reverse (coating the rangy in a lovely carpet of mud) - I did have chaco's on though.

 

I do think your modern stuff will be more economical in the short term, but show me a Hi Lux this age in daily hard use? As for faster, I very much doubt it - I dont have a habit of driving fast, but with my Michelin AT's Ive had it into 3 figures a few times.

 

This is a bog standard 280 minus doors and with rollcage -

 

http://www.benzi-team.com/video/baat1/baa_part3.WMV

 

Dont think its half bad?

[Browning GTS]

I voted series III. Why is there no 90 on the list ? a bit later than series but not yet a Defender.

[JJaxeman]

I voted series III. Since that is what I have. Defender 90 2.5D great motor but then I am a mechanic so the odd problem is soon sorted out but cant do anything about the noise levels or rain coming in

[OldBill]

I voted series III. Since that is what I have. Defender 90 2.5D great motor but then I am a mechanic so the odd problem is soon sorted out but cant do anything about the noise levels or rain coming in

 

 

Was looking for a 90 or 110 but for the money was looking at rubbish. I have just brought a Mitsubushi Pajero 2.5 TD LWB. OMG- 91 on a J plate, not a speck of rust, 67k miles, insurance fully comp at £188 all for £1600

 

I'm well happy. More options for 4WD than you can shake a big stick at (and on the move, so no need to stop). It's a fantastic motor and as it turns out parts are cheap. The downside is that I tend to treat it like a car rather than an offroader.