new to the flock Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 How do you calculate fps to foot pounds? NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 fps x 2 x weight of bullet/pellet in grains divide by 450240 so take air-rifle figures 600fps x 600fps x 14.5grain pellet divide by 450240 =11.59ftlb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 The calculation goes like this:- Multiply the projectile weight in pounds by the square of the muzzle velocity in feet per second (fps), then divide the result by 64. Note that there are 7,000 grains in a pound. So, for a .22 pellet (14 grains) travelling at 600fps the calculation is:- pellet weight :- 14 divided by 7000 = 0.002 squared muzzle velocity (600x600) = 360,000 0.002 x 360,000 = 720 divided by 64 = 11.25 ft/lbs Just noticed kip can type faster than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Thanks Guys NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Okay, just worked out a rifle that I am looking at using your 14 grain pellet weight as I have nothing with the weight of the pellets on it. It is not listed on the tins here. This gun is shooting at 1200 fps, so according to both sets of calculations....they were within .5..........the gun should be shooting at 45 foot pounds. Would you say this is heavy enough for squirrels and out to what distance? NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Take heed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_velocity Okay, just worked out a rifle that I am looking at using your 14 grain pellet weight as I have nothing with the weight of the pellets on it. It is not listed on the tins here. This gun is shooting at 1200 fps, so according to both sets of calculations....they were within .5..........the gun should be shooting at 45 foot pounds. Would you say this is heavy enough for squirrels and out to what distance? NTTF Heh, that's about half what a .22lr does at about 50yds - more than enough for squirrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Okay, just worked out a rifle that I am looking at using your 14 grain pellet weight as I have nothing with the weight of the pellets on it. It is not listed on the tins here. This gun is shooting at 1200 fps, so according to both sets of calculations....they were within .5..........the gun should be shooting at 45 foot pounds. Would you say this is heavy enough for squirrels and out to what distance? NTTF Nttf, do you reload?? if you have some powder scales just weigh five pellets and see what they come out at. 45ftlb, squirrels look out. Depends on how good your accuracy at what you think is your max range. With a 12ftlb air-rifle i have taken squirrels at 50 yards and clean kills, but it is all to do with accuracy. If you rifle is going that fast try a pellet from 15-18grain but check accuracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Okay, just worked out a rifle that I am looking at using your 14 grain pellet weight as I have nothing with the weight of the pellets on it. It is not listed on the tins here. This gun is shooting at 1200 fps, so according to both sets of calculations....they were within .5..........the gun should be shooting at 45 foot pounds. Would you say this is heavy enough for squirrels and out to what distance? NTTF your right in your approximation of FT/LBS however at 45 ish with a 14 grain at 1200fps you are in supersonic territory and I should imagine that the pellet will be highly unstable in flight? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Thanks Guys. I think I may have to buy one of these. They are only $125 cdn or around 50 pounds. Dont think I would have too much trouble with the accuraccy after a little time on it, and after I find something that it likes to eat. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 There is a program called "chairgun" on the internet free too i belelive Simply put in the weight of your projectile the speed of your projectile and IT calculates your FPE It can also help calculate your drop in trajectory Your points of aim near and far your best scope height and heaps more It's a fantastic program LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justme Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hi, I thought that it was fps x fps (not 2 x fps) x weight divide by 250240 was the way to do it & in the above example it gives 11.59ftlb for a 14.5 pellet at 600fps. Having looked at the other explanation the same gun with the same pellets gives 11.651 ftlb. Not a big difference but it might count. So which is right? Or more importantly which method do the police use as that small difference could make all the diference. justme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Fps X fps X grains /450240 = Ft Lb. cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hi,I thought that it was fps x fps (not 2 x fps) x weight divide by 250240 was the way to do it & in the above example it gives 11.59ftlb for a 14.5 pellet at 600fps. Having looked at the other explanation the same gun with the same pellets gives 11.651 ftlb. Not a big difference but it might count. So which is right? Or more importantly which method do the police use as that small difference could make all the diference. justme Fps X fps X grains /450240 = Ft Lb. cheers KW that's what i meant, didn't type it that well did i thanks kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Hi, I thought that it was fps x fps (not 2 x fps) x weight divide by 250240 was the way to do it & in the above example it gives 11.59ftlb for a 14.5 pellet at 600fps. Having looked at the other explanation the same gun with the same pellets gives 11.651 ftlb. Not a big difference but it might count. So which is right? Or more importantly which method do the police use as that small difference could make all the diference. justme Fps X fps X grains /450240 = Ft Lb. cheers KW that's what i meant, didn't type it that well did i thanks kdubya Sod all that maths..............just get yourself a chrono.....................about 30 quid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PestController Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Okay, just worked out a rifle that I am looking at using your 14 grain pellet weight as I have nothing with the weight of the pellets on it. It is not listed on the tins here. This gun is shooting at 1200 fps, so according to both sets of calculations....they were within .5..........the gun should be shooting at 45 foot pounds. Would you say this is heavy enough for squirrels and out to what distance? NTTF Hi NTTF I have an Air Ranger set at 55ft/lbs that does rabbits easily out to 80-90 yards. I tend to use Bisley Magnums ( .22) as anything else just folds up and is not accurate enough. Also using the heavier Bismag pellet, you'll get slower muzzle velocity enabling you to get away from the sonic "crack", still maintain a fairly flat trajectory, with awesome hitting power. ( for an air rifle ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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