gunsafe Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Hi Guys My pup is now 11 months old, doing really well very fit and active with no signs of ill health shorness breath etc. very fit indeed. But recently whilst walking out on a slip lead (as usual with all my dogs) when I pull him up when a car is passing or another dog is being aggressive etc, he has dropped to the ground and fainted. Only done this in the last month and only happens when pulling his slip lead (not overtight either) it seams that now if I put any pressure on the slip lead he faints for about 5 seconds, this has happened three times. I have tested him during exersise and he has or shows no problems at all. Is this normal do some labs have weaker winpipes, the reson i say this is I have not experienced this on any of my other 7 labs? Your help would be much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL4 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Never had anything like that problem with any Labs I've got or had, nor heard of it before. Sounds like some sort of possible restriction, maybe oxygen to the brain? I'd seek out the vet and get a medical opinion. Be very interested to hear any conclusions to this. Keep us posted ..... Good luck with him. DaveL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I'd be down the vet as well and also stop using the lead now, you're either talking oxygen related or something nasty is going on with its neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsafe Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Yeah thought that best bet is Vet but just wondered before that if any of you had experienced this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 something like that needs urgent vet attention - please ! i have heard of a nerve called i think the vegas nerve , that when restricted can cause passing out. its just a thought you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) It can't be anything to do with oxygen supply. A tug on a slip lead lasts a split second, that little amount of time cannot make a dog faint through lack of oxygen. If it did every dog, and everything that breathes, would faint between breathing in and breathing out every time it drew breath !!!!!!. Get the dog to the vets. Edited July 1, 2013 by cocker boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 i think i would of been sat outside the vets at opening time! good luck with getting it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL4 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 It can't be anything to do with oxygen supply. A tug on a slip lead lasts a split second, that little amount of time cannot make a dog faint through lack of oxygen. If it did every dog, and everything that breathes, would faint between breathing in and breathing out every time it drew breath !!!!!!. Get the dog to the vets. Is there not a supply of oxygen in the bloodstream then ..... ? I did say earlier "oxygen to the brain" If the blood supply is interrupted for a very short time it might cause the problem. An example is something we as stupid kids used to do until we were told in no uncertain terms the dangers - DO NOT TRY IT AS IT'S POTENTIALY FATAL!!! One gullible kid stands still, takes a deep breath then holds hands above his head. Another wraps his arms around gullible kids chest from behind ..... kid passes out very quickly due to interrupted blood supply. DaveL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Is there not a supply of oxygen in the bloodstream then ..... ? I did say earlier "oxygen to the brain" If the blood supply is interrupted for a very short time it might cause the problem. An example is something we as stupid kids used to do until we were told in no uncertain terms the dangers - DO NOT TRY IT AS IT'S POTENTIALY FATAL!!! One gullible kid stands still, takes a deep breath then holds hands above his head. Another wraps his arms around gullible kids chest from behind ..... kid passes out very quickly due to interrupted blood supply. DaveL Does the gullible kid pass out after a split second??A half second?.No didn't think so. A tug on a lead is a split second. That will not make a dog faint through lack of oxygen. Take the dog to the vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Had a choc lab that did this on occasion, just kind of keeled over for a few seconds and it always happened on a slip lead when there was a little bit of pressure. Vet reckoned it was a form of epilepsy, but as it only happened occasionally and she was getting on a bit we didn't do any tests. It didn't happen every time there was pressure applied though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Please excuse my ignorance but You have the slip lead fitted correctly so that when you relive the tension the lead "slips" away? When fitted the wrong way it can stick locked tight ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikweller Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I would take him to the vet too, worth trying a muzzle lead/halter, my springer pulls like a bit and chokes if using a slip lead so I halter him and have him perfectly at heel now breathing normally. Deffo worth a vets appointment, better safe than sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonychez Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Mpk. I have had slip leads for years and only realised the other month that you can have it a right and wrong way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Mpk. I have had slip leads for years and only realised the other month that you can have it a right and wrong way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Hi Guys My pup is now 11 months old, doing really well very fit and active with no signs of ill health shorness breath etc. very fit indeed. But recently whilst walking out on a slip lead (as usual with all my dogs) when I pull him up when a car is passing or another dog is being aggressive etc, he has dropped to the ground and fainted. Only done this in the last month and only happens when pulling his slip lead (not overtight either) it seams that now if I put any pressure on the slip lead he faints for about 5 seconds, this has happened three times. I have tested him during exersise and he has or shows no problems at all. Is this normal do some labs have weaker winpipes, the reson i say this is I have not experienced this on any of my other 7 labs? Your help would be much appreciated What did the vet have to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazbev Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Yes would be interesting what the vet says, as dlj says its a blood to the brain thing I would think, perhaps change to a broader coller when walking and slip lead when working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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