beatingisbest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 My FEO phoned today to arrange a home visit for Thursday. Apparently he has been employed by Hants Constabulary because they are so busy, i have found out that he also knows few of the laws to do with licencing and younger people, he said that i cannot have the keys to my own cabinet, i cannot have guns in my house, i cannot shoot alone etc. I am sure that these are not true, I have found out that the Home Office goes against him What can i do, shall i say to him that i have found out that i can do all of these things? Shall i say nothing and tell BASC? Should i just keep my mouth zipped?? Please help, Thank-You for any replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Phone the BASC. You have nothing to lose, apparently their law department is second to none. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 If he says no to ANYTHING ,ask if he will speak to BASC and phone them as he`s sitting there,I did Thats why I have fox on my 6.5 ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Tell him your dad's on the square and it will be Bob's your Uncle Seriously though, if he has told you these incorrect things then put it in writing to the BASC and get their written response to him ready for your meeting. He won't take your word for it - after all your under age, can't have guns etc etc (or so he thinks) Also, my firearms chappy left me with a card and he has email - send him the links to the Government webby and the source information - obviously links to "bloke down the pub says" webbies won't carry any weight with him unless you happen to print the extract off on £50 notes and then hand them to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 so i should phone BASC while he is there, this wont effect my chances of getting it, will it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 so i should phone BASC while he is there, this wont effect my chances of getting it, will it? providing you meet the legal requirements, you are ENTITLED to have a SGC, disagreeing and proving the officer wrong should not effect your chances. If it does, you can take it to court and have it overturned i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 At the end of the day, if he is wrong, then tell him and give proof. As the others say, you have a right to own a shotty and he can't stop you unless he has good reason. He is only there to work to the rules, he doesn't make them. I'd go with the phoning BASC plan, and if you can, give him access to the home office site when he questions you. Don't rub it in that you know more than him because it wont help, but that doesn't mean you can't inform him of his mistake in a polite manner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 You do have to be 17 to have the keys to your own cabinet, and you also have to be 17 to go out on your own. Having guns in your home is abit of b******t tho unless he personally deems it un-suitable I know this for fact as i remember being allowed to go out for the very first time on my own with my old s/s as it was the same year i learnt to drive and passed my driving test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 You do have to be 17 to have the keys to your own cabinet, and you also have to be 17 to go out on your own. Having guns in your home is abit of b******t tho unless he personally deems it un-suitable I know this for fact as i remember being allowed to go out for the very first time on my own with my old s/s as it was the same year i learnt to drive and passed my driving test You can go out on your own when your 15, be given or lent a gun/ammo at 15 and i had my own cabinet and access to it when i was 15. where is your source? I dont know where you got that from but my local authorities certainly dont allow that, not a shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I think he's right dazzy, you have to be 17 to buy a gun or ammo, but you can own one and go out on your own at 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I think he's right dazzy, you have to be 17 to buy a gun or ammo, but you can own one and go out on your own at 15. This is correct, as far as i know the only thing you cannot do at my age is buy guns or ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 My mistake, but im absolutly sure of this restriction with my authories back in 2000 as you were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 It's a fair mistake to make buddy. The chances are, your FEO told you that, and that's how this topic has come along. FEO not knowing what he is shouting about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I think he's right dazzy, you have to be 17 to buy a gun or ammo, but you can own one and go out on your own at 15. This is correct, as far as i know the only thing you cannot do at my age is buy guns or ammo Can anyone back this up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Yes my fao also sent me a letter seperate to my sgc telling me and my parents i must be 17 to shoot alone? im confuzzeled and if you are right what do i do? as i have had my sgc for a few years now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Under 14: CAN hold an SGC CAN NOT hold an FAC CAN NOT purchase or hire a shotgun, or get one as a gift until 15 Under 15: CAN hold an SGC AND an FAC CAN (if specified on FAC) receive a gift of a section 1 firearm from age 14) CAN NOT: Purchase or hire a shotgun (until 17) CAN NOT: Purchase or hire a firearm (until 17) CAN NOT: Receive a gift of a shotgun (until 15) CAN NOT: Possess an assembled shotgun Unless supervised by someone over 21 (does not have to be SGC holder) OR the gun is so covered with a securely fastened gun cover that it can not be fired. Under 17: CAN hold an SGC and/or FAC CAN (if specified on FAC) Receive a gift of a shogun or section 1 firearm (or possess a shotgun if covered and secured as above, from age 15) CAN NOT: Purchase or hire a shotgun or section 1 weapon until 17. That's the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-p...pdf?view=Binary read chapter 7. and print it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-p...pdf?view=Binary read chapter 7. and print it. shall i use this as evidence for the FEO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 if you think he is wrong , ask him to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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