fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hi all, im looking for a bit of the pw massive advice and thoughts I bought my beretta a300 outlander new around 4 weeks ago i treat it the same as the o/u and clean it every outing. I have put around 800/1000 shells through it and its performed faultlessly. I stripped it down this morning to clean and noticed some marks in the barrel, ive srubbed and scrubbed using a payne galway brush with cleaner but the marks are still visable, could this be pitting ? leading marks etc Dont get me wrong the barrel comes up lovely at first glance, but when you hold it to the light and turn slightly the best way to describe is that it looks like a slug has gone up the barrel in places I have had this sometimes with my 692 but a good scrum and it disappears, but not with the semi barrel Any ideas/thoughts/advice appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Id say its just wad marks. I scrubbed mine yesterday for ages trying to remove it. I used a bronze chamber brush with a bit of Autosol metal polish on it. Came up brand new in seconds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Id say its just wad marks. I scrubbed mine yesterday for ages trying to remove it. I used a bronze chamber brush with a bit of Autosol metal polish on it. Came up brand new in seconds... Agree with you fully, very often get marks but just cannot shift them, i used hoppes 9 on a bronze brush but just wont shift for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Is it a line from the rod being extracted? May just be some stubborn lead. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Is it a line from the rod being extracted? May just be some stubborn lead. U. I gave it a good going over with a patch after cleaning so dont think so, it looks more like a crazed look in places rather than lead marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I suggested that cos when I push a patch through and then i pull the rod back through I get a dragged line from the rod. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I suggested that cos when I push a patch through and then i pull the rod back through I get a dragged line from the rod. U. yes you do get that sometimes and i do appreciate the suggestion underdog because its driving me nuts not being able to remove it , really difficult to explain without a pic and has stumped me because i have never seen this kind of mark in a barrel before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Bit lost then matey...hope you sort it. Don't worry to much though hey! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Bit lost then matey...hope you sort it. Don't worry to much though hey! U. Cheers u, just an update since i put the post on here the barrel has been soaking in hoppes 9 , i have used a drill on slow speed with a payne galway brush on a cleaning rod, i then used autosol on the same brush and slowly cleaned the barrel with that. Made no difference what so ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchill Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Sounds like plastic wad, a bit of 009 and the old phosphor bronze brush and get to it. Failing that some 40 wire wool tightly wrapped around a jag will also shift it. I had to use wire wool earlier this year after shooting in freezing conditions and i had what looked like tar spots in my barrels. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptrangmar Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) What I allways use is soft iron wire wool ( silver fleece etc ) wrapped around an old lamswool mop. I use enough to get a tight fit. Does no harm as the barrel material is so much Harder. Works every time. Just read the post above. Bang on the money Edited October 6, 2013 by ptrangmar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Definitely sounds like plastic fouling to me. As others have said, I have to use wirewool/phosphur bronze brush and battery drill to remove such streaks in my trusty old 3800, and yes that's after soaking with 'butch's bore shine,hoppes and tetra gun cleaner. Something that I have found works pretty well also is to pour a kettle of boiling water down the barrels(taking any/all safety procedures). This does a really good job of softening the plastic up. In my experience some barrels are worse than others for this, irrespective of whether they're chromed or not. My old DT10 was a right baalamb. Regards Remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Definitely sounds like plastic fouling to me. As others have said, I have to use wirewool/phosphur bronze brush and battery drill to remove such streaks in my trusty old 3800, and yes that's after soaking with 'butch's bore shine,hoppes and tetra gun cleaner. Something that I have found works pretty well also is to pour a kettle of boiling water down the barrels(taking any/all safety procedures). This does a really good job of softening the plastic up. In my experience some barrels are worse than others for this, irrespective of whether they're chromed or not. My old DT10 was a right baalamb. Regards Remmyman When you say plastic fouling thats only if you use plastic wad carts ? Over the last hour i have tried most of the above, plus what i have done in post 9, the amount os scrubbing i have done with the electric drill with a bronze brush, then a wire wool on a mop, autosol hoppes 9, wd40 the lot im pretty sure now its not fouling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Judging on what your saying you have tried to clean it with i would be wanting a closer look. i get plastic foaling and a dowel with green pot scrubber in one end and drill on the other always sorts it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 g96 nitro solvent spray is like parker hale 009 but stronger! spray it down the barrel and leave it 15 20mins then put the end of the rod in an electric drill and a phospher bronze brush or payne galway brush on the end and whizz it up and down the barrel for a few mins, this is what i now do with my beretta trap gun, as when im shooting 100 dtl / average 150 carts it gets quite bad! it will be plastic fouling from the wad and the end of the cartridge which melts on the barrel when it gets hot, i have tried tetra action blaster (which is actually just a degreaser) parker hale 009 and youngs 303 and none of them are as good as g96, remember if you use g96 run a mop through at the end with some gun oil on as it is just a cleaner and doesnt leave any oil or anything like 009/youngs 303 do...good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Hi all, im looking for a bit of the pw massive advice and thoughts I bought my beretta a300 outlander new around 4 weeks ago i treat it the same as the o/u and clean it every outing. I have put around 800/1000 shells through it and its performed faultlessly. I stripped it down this morning to clean and noticed some marks in the barrel, ive srubbed and scrubbed using a payne galway brush with cleaner but the marks are still visable, could this be pitting ? leading marks etc Dont get me wrong the barrel comes up lovely at first glance, but when you hold it to the light and turn slightly the best way to describe is that it looks like a slug has gone up the barrel in places I have had this sometimes with my 692 but a good scrum and it disappears, but not with the semi barrel Any ideas/thoughts/advice appreciated Stupid I know but .....You are not trying to clean out the gas vent holes are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Stupid I know but .....You are not trying to clean out the gas vent holes are you? No not gas vent holes , the outlander works on inertia system , to me there's pitting in the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 g96 nitro solvent spray is like parker hale 009 but stronger! spray it down the barrel and leave it 15 20mins then put the end of the rod in an electric drill and a phospher bronze brush or payne galway brush on the end and whizz it up and down the barrel for a few mins, this is what i now do with my beretta trap gun, as when im shooting 100 dtl / average 150 carts it gets quite bad! it will be plastic fouling from the wad and the end of the cartridge which melts on the barrel when it gets hot, i have tried tetra action blaster (which is actually just a degreaser) parker hale 009 and youngs 303 and none of them are as good as g96, remember if you use g96 run a mop through at the end with some gun oil on as it is just a cleaner and doesnt leave any oil or anything like 009/youngs 303 do...good luck Please don't this the wrong way as I appreciate all advice ,but as said in previous posts above , I have done this method for nearly an hour with bronze brush etc which has made no difference and I can't be from plastic wads as I never use plastic wads only fibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 When you say plastic fouling thats only if you use plastic wad carts ? Over the last hour i have tried most of the above, plus what i have done in post 9, the amount os scrubbing i have done with the electric drill with a bronze brush, then a wire wool on a mop, autosol hoppes 9, wd40 the lot im pretty sure now its not fouling Absolutely, have you only used fibres then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Absolutely, have you only used fibres then? No mate never had a fibre wad through it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Ok, Then here's what I would do. Take your broze brush and without using any solvent/polish etc, wrap enough wire wool around it to make it a pretty tight fit and then use your battery drill on high for a good couple of minutes. You know when you've achieved the right fit because the barrels get uncomfortably hot to hold. If a couple of goes like this does'nt shift it then I doubt that it's fouling. Sorry i can't be more help. Regards Remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Ok, Then here's what I would do. Take your broze brush and without using any solvent/polish etc, wrap enough wire wool around it to make it a pretty tight fit and then use your battery drill on high for a good couple of minutes. You know when you've achieved the right fit because the barrels get uncomfortably hot to hold. If a couple of goes like this does'nt shift it then I doubt that it's fouling. Sorry i can't be more help. Regards Remmyman Ok thanks I'll give it a try tomorrow and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Holy ****, autosol down a barrel It's a gas auto and you're trying to polish out the shadow the gas ports make. Take it to someone who knows what they're doing before you wreck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Holy ****, autosol down a barrel It's a gas auto and you're trying to polish out the shadow the gas ports make. Take it to someone who knows what they're doing before you wreck it. with respect I do know what a gas port looks like , there's one half way down the barrel that's it , its not a shadow its small marks in clumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 with respect I do know what a gas port looks like , there's one half way down the barrel that's it , its not a shadow its small marks in clumps Well I would definitely not be using autosol in any barrel. Can't you get someone with a borescope to take a look if you're sure there's a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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