Steel100 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 As it says, Hot off the press, so to speak. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/firearms-law-guidance-to-the-police-2012 Enjoy! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It would have saved a load of future argy bargy on here if they'd have had the nous to sort out the meaning of 'occupier' for once and for always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Interesting....a slight contradiction Acquire can mean buying to me 2.50 A shotgun certificate is not required to possess or acquire shotgun cartridges containing five or more shot, none of which exceeds .36 inch in diameter. All ordinary shot cartridges are covered by this description. However, a shotgun certificate (or firearm certificate authorising possession of a section 1 shotgun) is normally required to purchase shotgun cartridges. All single bulleted ammunition, for example solid slug, spherical ball or projectiles for birdscaring equipment, is subject to the requirement for a firearm certificate. Edited October 8, 2013 by Sprackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I shall print that off and have a good read next time I can't get to sleep!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Still many anomalies and contradictions but at least there is now ongoing dialogue and the opportunity to revisit contentious issues or ambiguities. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It would have saved a load of future argy bargy on here if they'd have had the nous to sort out the meaning of 'occupier' for once and for always. They can't though. Parliament hasn't provided a definition so it is down to the courts. The HO do not make the law. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Interesting....a slight contradiction Acquire can mean buying to me You are correct, it can, but 'purchase' is specifically dealt with. You need a cert to purchase but not to possess or acquire. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Interesting....a slight contradiction Acquire can mean buying to me Yep, so had a look. As far as i can tell, it appears to be by any means various, and without actually saying so, but not by purchase. The King's English Dictionary says, "to gain, usually byone's own labour or exertions; to take on". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Acquire = To gain possession of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Before too many people start hanging off every word, please note. It is a GUIDE, the only law in there are assorted specific references to various Acts of Parliament! Lifted directly from the front page, note the liberal use of Guide/Guidance! As they also say........This guide is not intended to be a definitive statement of the law...... Guidance Guide on Firearms Licensing Law 2013 Organisation:Home Office Page history: Updated 7 October 2013, see all updates Consolidated guidance now available. 7 October 2013 14:08 New chapters added. 19 September 2013 11:22 New chapters added. 15 August 2013 16:42 Domestic violence chapter added. 1 August 2013 12:34 First published. 19 December 2012 00:00 Series: Firearms Consolidated guidance to the police on firearms legislation. Document Guide on Firearms Licensing Law 2013PDF, 1.03MB, 254 pages Detail This document provides consolidated guidance on firearms licensing legislation. This guide is not intended to be a definitive statement of the law, but a cohesive explanation of the often complex area of firearms licensing. This replaces the previous guidance published in 2002. Edited October 8, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Oh, and thanks to Steel100 for posting, they have been updating this steadily for many months but I didn't know the Full version was available yet. I will need to get a copy asap, GUIDE or not, the Police will treat it the same as the 2002 Guide and use it as though it was Law. If you do have any vaguely serious interest in shooting or are involved in anything like a professional capacity, sad though it may be, this really IS essential reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 As Dekers says, it's NOT law it is a Guide ... and yes, I am already aware of at least one force which has read and are working to the 'new' Guidance. Also, as JonathanL has commented, until Parliament make changes in primary legislation the best we can expect is some tinkering at the edges. I do however, expect to see some material changes when the new certificate format is introduced. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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