hunterswind9465 Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 One of the guys slagging me off about supposed big bags of geese has brought the late Peter Scott into the argument, this supposed expert on Goose shooting might find it interesting that Peter Scott shot massive bags of Geese in his time !!!!!!!!! I think it is time the Goose expert got off his **** and did a bit of shooting the fresh air might clear his head :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Peter Scott did indeed shoot some massive bags of geese over the years. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quercus Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Why do the farmers tolerate such large numbers of geese on their crops? If there were thousands of pigeons on a field they would soon be on the phone, and nobody would be worried about bag limits . The geese must do massive damage. I can remember years ago my Dad shooting the geese off fields with his .22. The local farmers used to (and probably still do) offer a substantial amount of whisky to the member of the local wildfowling club who accounted for the most geese in a season. I can remember as a boy seeing a hilux stacked with dead geese, ultimately it was about crop protection. Surely the wildfowling guides are doing a favour for the farmers. Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaboy Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yeah Richardson it was me. Peter Scott sickened himself by the large bags he had taken earlier in his career, even though he had taken them on the foreshore not decoyed them. It turned him against fowling. It looks like you want to repeat the mistakes he make in his youth. And I don't claim to be a goose expert just in the same way you can't claim to be a conservationist. Just ask yourself how all of this started. 1. You came onto Eric’s website saying there was a guy shooting geese out of season in Aberdeenshire and you would like to catch him. 2. Someone on that site (rightly or wrongly named YOU as that guide) 3. You suggested that the guy who mentioned your name be careful about naming names (all the time NOT revealing you were that very same guide). The user subsequently edited his post. 4. A few of us did a bit of digging and matched your username to the Goose guide mentioned. 5. We asked you to explain yourself... quess what... Nothing. Why so silent Mr Richardson... something to hide? Also, by you bumming yourself up on your website as some goose shooting god. I think the reaction you have received on Eric’s forum put you right on that one. Everyone can make their own conclusions as I have put all the original posts. http://pub59.ezboard.com/fduckandgoosehunt...opicID=10.topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Look can we please stop this, for the sake of everyone else, OK so he shot a big bag of geese. I'm sure you and everyone else has shot a big bag of something, or you have something that you are not proud of. Christmas is the season to be jolly, not Christmas is the season to slag each other off about the amounts off geese shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-eye-dick Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yer, Christmas is coming and the geese are getting fat etc.etc. well some are anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterswind9465 Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 I realy must be very stupid to try and get myself done for out of season shooting :*) What more can I say ??? Must say thanks to Eric for clearing the whole thing up. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterswind9465 Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Betteta Boy you have got the whole thing wrong. [Also, by you bumming yourself up on your website as some goose shooting god. I think the reaction you have received on Eric’s forum put you right on that one.] The name up here is the Goose Father Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaboy Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 you have got the whole thing wrong Would you care to expand? What have I got wrong? The fact when asked to explain yourself you disappeared? The fact that a forum member was told by a BASC official it was YOU shooting geese out of season? At least we now know why you are not in BASC and it has nothing to do with ‘not liking the way thing are done in Scotland’ Have I got it wrong that you DO shoot big bags of geese? What a group of guns do with 23 geese each is beyond me. They must have huge freezers. Look, I have no right to tell you how to make a living. What you do is not illegal (unless you are shooting geese out of season) IF that is the case and you are caught, I hope they throw away the key. Lets just say that when this foxhunting farce is out of the way the antis are going to be looking very closely at shooting practices. Most people think that game shooting will be first. I don’t. You see pheasants are bred for one purpose; to be shot. Geese however are not. Claims (rightly or wrongly) of hundreds of birds killed will come home to roost (bad pun). I think that a little discretion would be better advised on your part, for all our sakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-eye-dick Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 So, We've got two grown men, from the same side (shooters), on a pigeon shooting web site, continuing an agument from a wildfowling site, about some geese, which are now dead. shot as part of an excessivly large bag - in season or not they are dead Is it just me or is this pointless ? Shake hands and make up - and lets get some shooting done and leave the cheap shot to the anti's - god know they do enough of it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flightline Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 ..and please can we not assume foxhunting`s a goner? I for one am going to fight for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 berettaboy/bx338, Why don't you just give Andrew a call and discuss your differences on the telephone? Much easier, and you never know, you might get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Here, here, i was going to suggest the same. But i didn't want to be put in the crossfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 I don,t think Berettaboy should get any grief. Hunterswind brought this argument from another Website, over to here to get support. Once its on here, its fair game to be discussed. Having read the posts on the Wildfowling site, I agree that there are a few questions unanswered. If Hunterswind doesn,t want to address the points Berettaboy makes, then he would be advised to keep goose shooting arguments off this Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Cranfield, I wasn't meaning to have a go at him...we know better than anyone that online arguements can get out of hand and be misconstrued. Thats why You and I sorted our differences out over the phone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 If hunterswind didn,t want all the issues surrounding the posts on the Wildfowling site discussed on here, he shouldn,t have posted the link and asked for support. Support is not unconditional, we must read the posts and make our own minds up. It appears that the reason he couldn,t post his own comments, was because he had been banned from the site. Now, I have no grievance with hunterswind at all. But, I don,t think he was sensible, drawing people from this Forum, into his argument on the Wilfowling website. Berettaboy and you, obviously post on both sites and the argument has spilled onto here, through two threads, both started by hunterswind. Whilst I agree, if two people have a personal disagreement, a telephone call is a good idea. I don,t see this issue falling into the same category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Over to you Hunters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Personally I have read the request for support from HW and then read the website in question. The result being; as a third party I do not know the truth or all the facts so it would be wrong for me to nail my colours to any particular mast and wont be doing so. I firmly believe this is an issue that should be discussed between the parties on the following basis: 1. It originated from another web site. 2. It is wrong for HW to bring his disagreements to this forum and disrupt this site, the simple fact is, with the exception possibly of Berratta Boy, it has nothing to do with anyone on this site. I enjoy the company and wisdom of all on this site and wish it to remain what it is and not have it pulled apart by disagreements that have nothing to do with this site. Sort it out lads, either amicably over the phone, or if you think you have a case HW, thro the courts. Hugs to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaboy Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Col Pol. I have never asked or expected anyone to take sides. I had to respond to this individual after a personal attack. All I did was present the other side of the story or the facts as I saw them. I leave it up to individuals to look at the evidence and come to their own conclusions. In the meantime consider this. In the year and a half I have been a member of the Wildfowling website only two individuals (that I am aware of) have been banned. One was Lee Robb and the other Andrew Richardson. If you look hard enough you will find out what kind of individual Lee Robb is. My last word on this distasteful subject is that if any of you are thinking about organising shooting through a goose guide. Make sure he is BASC registered. Good shooting BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbus Polumbus Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 BB Apologies my friend I was not intentionally having a pop at you, your reasons for responding seem just and reasonable. What I was trying to say was from what has been posted by HW; all is not clear and I (personally) think it should not have got onto this website as it had nothing to do with anyone here with the exception of your goodself. If this website was used to bring you into the affray then I think that was wrong. Word has got back to Eric who has made his comments here on this site which I feel has brought even more of the overspill onto this site. I appreciate why both you and Eric have commented here but I would not wish to see problems with others on other sites being thrashed out on here. I am not blaming anyone and if I had too, I would consider HW as responsible but blaming people is not going to resolve the issue. Equally it is not going to be resolved here either so to that end I was trying to suggest if the parties are still in a position to discuss it over the phone they should do so, make their agreements and if appropriate post a joint response on both sites to clear up and put to bed the whole thing. I didn't and still don't mean to upset anyone I am posting what is purely a personal one which others can make their own mind up as to whether they think it sensible or not. I am sure if I have overstepped the mark I will find out in the true traditions of the comradery of this site. Cheers Col Pol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I'm with Col Pol on this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTMS Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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