babs2020 Posted October 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 thanks that is how i read it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) No its not and the sooner people realise this the better. If you meet the criteria to possess a fac then you will be granted it end of. Quite correct and exactly the opposite of what was quoted. It annoys me when people claim that gun ownership is a privilege and not a right. You have the right to own guns as long as you meet the required criteria regarding the law ect. It's bad enough when the non shooting community believe this never mind people that own guns. As long as you can give good reason for FAC you have the right to ownership. Edited October 22, 2013 by r1steele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 I think I may have put that rather poorly. Ownership of FAC in this country is a privilege in that you must show 'good reason' to possess (whether that be target, where club membership is needed, or live shooting, where land, quarry species need to be shown to be likely to be present) - unlike for a SGC, where you do not have to show shooting permissions over land, or clay club membership The OP was originally suggesting that he would simply not inform the police that his permission had gone, and just sit on his FAC, hoping to get a permission in the next 5 years. My viewpoint was that he was risking rather a lot by doing so. He has only had his FAC for 2 weeks, and to possibly sit on a FAC for nearly 5 years without any land to shoot on would be, in my opinion, grossly risky. If that was the case, then there is no way in hell he would be able to argue that he had 'good reason' for those 4 yrs and 50 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babs2020 Posted October 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 if you read the post i have one other permission but i have not had it checked as i only shoot air rifle on it i have been told that some used to shoot rimfire onit so was going to get this checked out as well was never thinking of owning fac 4year and 50 week that's just what you was thinking without any land to shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) I think I may have put that rather poorly. Ownership of FAC in this country is a privilege in that you must show 'good reason' to possess (whether that be target, where club membership is needed, or live shooting, where land, quarry species need to be shown to be likely to be present) - unlike for a SGC, where you do not have to show shooting permissions over land, or clay club membership The OP was originally suggesting that he would simply not inform the police that his permission had gone, and just sit on his FAC, hoping to get a permission in the next 5 years. My viewpoint was that he was risking rather a lot by doing so. He has only had his FAC for 2 weeks, and to possibly sit on a FAC for nearly 5 years without any land to shoot on would be, in my opinion, grossly risky. If that was the case, then there is no way in hell he would be able to argue that he had 'good reason' for those 4 yrs and 50 weeks. Agree with you there. Good thing is BABS does have other land that may have already been cleared for his calibres so presuming his conditions (closed as far as I can make out) say something along the lines of land deemed suitable by the chief of police it' just a formality. Edited October 22, 2013 by r1steele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camojohn Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 For the time being couldn’t babs join an FAC rifle club? That way he can keep his gun and certificate until he finds land to shoot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Regarding the other piece of land - as you have said, it is 'full of horses' , so the very first thing is to check whether the landowner would be happy for you to be shooting rifles on there, as opposed to air rifles, which is all you are using there at present. Horsey people can be rather funny about things like that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Why not ask the famer before he sell's about taking the sporting right's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Open ticket ,apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Open ticket ,apply Even with an open ticket he needs one piece of land suitable for the rifles he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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