activeviii Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 just checked now and 17KwH used in 24 hours. Kids and there electronics, wife and hers and my chiller and freezers running. just gone back over the bills i have and looks like they, have been cocking it up for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Get in touch with customer services and let them know that you think your meter maybe u/s-if they have been reading it wrong or there is a fault then you should get a full refund-sometimes just the possibility of a fault can get you a huge refund. We had a gas bill a couple of years ago for over £700 when I explained that it was not possible for us to use so much gas they wrote off the entire amount (BG)-found out a few weeks later that we had a gas leak! I have also had refunds on my electric when the time is set wrong or when a power cut messes it up-because I run my major appliances on economy 7 I have argued that the meter is running the economy period at the wrong time-major refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 If you want to check to see where the power is being used my mate has a company that makes these: http://www.eco-eye.com/products-elite.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpius Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) I have just compared the 2 photos and they show a elect consumption from the first photo to the 2nd as approx. 10kw used. Look at the first photo 1kw dial showing 0, 2nd photo shows 5 =5kw used. 10kw dial first photo = 3. 2nd photo = 3.1/2 therefore on the 10kw dial you have used 1/2 of 10kw = 5kw. totalling 10kw over the time from the first photo to the second. Hope this makes sense. The elect bill will quote the charge per kwh multiply this by the amount used, plus standing order charge = amount payable. Edited November 21, 2013 by scorpius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I have just compared the 2 photos and they show a elect consumption from the first photo to the 2nd as approx. 10kw used. Look at the first photo 1kw dial showing 0, 2nd photo shows 5 =5kw used. 10kw dial first photo = 3. 2nd photo = 3.1/2 therefore on the 10kw dial you have used 1/2 of 10kw = 5kw. totalling 10kw over the time from the first photo to the second. Hope this makes sense. The elect bill will quote the charge per kwh multiply this by the amount used, plus standing order charge = amount payable. Not really? First meter shows 530.08kWh Second shows 534.35kWh so the difference would appear to be 4.27kWh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 just found a british gas minim reader so plugged it in have set it up so will see what happens over the next 24 hours. we are home all day so the electric is used, just the meter reading looked wrong. im still disputing the readings. i will try and phone BG and say something is wrong. we used 17kwh yesterday in a 24 hour period so dividing into the 846 units used since the last reading, would make it 50 days worth. not the 33 that days from lasting reading to this one. time will tell, weekends will be the one i think when the kids are home all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpius Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Sorry to disagree with you but my reasoning is, each of the dials record the elect consumed IE L/H dial = 10,0000 kwh,for every digit that is 10,0000 consumed, from left to right it records 10.000 - 1000.-100 - 10 - 1 kwh, red dial= 1/10th.If you imagine all dials were pointing to 0 with the exception of the 1000kwh which is showing 1. IE first reading all dials 0, next reading pointer on 1000 dial shows 1. all other dials point to 0. that would indicate 1000kwh had been consumed. To find out the amount of elect consumed two readings need to be taken and follow the above example, any single reading will only show the total elect consumed from the time the meter was installed with a supposition that the meter was set at 0 on all dials to start. Where the pointer is between numbers you can only estimate the % say 2.3 6.7 etc. I believe it is better to over estimate so take the next highest number. Estimated elect consumed using both photos; photo 1 on 10kw dial = 3 on photo 2 = 3.5 so .5 of 10 = 5kwh on photo 1 on 1kw dial = 1 on photo 2 = 4.3 so 3.3kwh has been used hence total elect used between the two photos is 8.3kwh. Edited November 21, 2013 by scorpius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 sorry, you have well lost me. lol I have a reading from 34 days ago and it says it was 99684. the reading on the first photo, from the majority was 00530 so in theory it gives me a 33 day reading to yesterday. reading before was 18 october. giving a usage of 846 KwH for that period of 33 days. braking it down to a daily use of 25.64. so approxmatly 1KwH per hour. 3 bed house, 2 kids. Gas heating so no hot water tank. seams a rather lot to me. best check me loft to see if there is any grow lights up there. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I have just compared the 2 photos and they show a elect consumption from the first photo to the 2nd as approx. 10kw used. Look at the first photo 1kw dial showing 0, 2nd photo shows 5 =5kw used. 10kw dial first photo = 3. 2nd photo = 3.1/2 therefore on the 10kw dial you have used 1/2 of 10kw = 5kw. totalling 10kw over the time from the first photo to the second. Hope this makes sense. The elect bill will quote the charge per kwh multiply this by the amount used, plus standing order charge = amount payable. Nope. The 1/2 of the 10kw dial (i.e. 5kw) is the same 5kw you have used and can easily read on the 1kw dial. That's why you always read the lower number on the dials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 that looks like quite an old meter should it not have been updated by now, i thought it was every 10 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Fork andles!!! Can somebody tell me where this is wrong please: First meter shows 530.08kWh Second shows 534.35kWh so the difference would appear to be 4.27kWh It really is that simple!! Admittedly it is to 2 decimal places but the meter is capable of discriminating to that level so that is why the answer is given to that level. When sending in a reading the decimal places are ignored. As an example of power usage a 3kW electric heater running for 1 hour will use 3kWh so it soon adds up if you've some fairly juicy appliances running. A 50W bulb will take 20 hours to consume 1kW or you could have 20 x 50W bulbs running for 1 hour to consume the same. It is just a factor of time against wattage. You can do a rough calculation if you know what each of your electrical appliances consume. Edited November 21, 2013 by old rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpius Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Dear Montrose, you are entitled to your opinion but to clarify the situation when the 1/10 dial reaches 9.99 the 1kw dial moves to 1. when this dial reaches 9.99 it records 1 on the 10kw dial.so on and so forth, but each dial is interconnected, but must be read on its own and not in combination with any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Second meter......... no 10,000's no 1,000's 5 100's 3 10's 4 1's 3.5 1/10's Add that all together and you get..............534.35 Seemples!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 How much longer can we make this thread last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 You'd be hard pushed to answer that one Dave! Is the answer "a herring"?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Very close It is actually a fish riding a pushbike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Oh well, ate least nobody has gone off on a rant over the ethnicity of the meter......yet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Might be worth checking that you haven't got an immersion heater running flat out in the water cylinder? They give the old meter a good run! Also check that nobody is farming Marijuana in a back room, that would use a lot of electricity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Oh well, ate least nobody has gone off on a rant over the ethnicity of the meter......yet!!! Now you have me worried. Is it a real meter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Now you have me worried. Is it a real meter Looks like the genuine article, bit long in the tooth so you might be able to get a new one fitted FOC, we had a new one put in a few months back. Are you sure you don't have a water tank for the hot used for the sinks and bath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 All on the combi boiler. Who do I talk to about a meter change. I am in the middle of supplier change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Your supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Dear Montrose, you are entitled to your opinion but to clarify the situation when the 1/10 dial reaches 9.99 the 1kw dial moves to 1. when this dial reaches 9.99 it records 1 on the 10kw dial.so on and so forth, but each dial is interconnected, but must be read on its own and not in combination with any other. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm disagreeing with your double-counting. It's why you think there has been about 10kwh used, when it's clear (and has been posted by old rooster) that only 4.27kwh has been used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm disagreeing with your double-counting. It's why you think there has been about 10kwh used, when it's clear (and has been posted by old rooster) that only 4.27kwh has been used. He can't even get your forum name right so probably not going to be too hot on the old maffs innit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 He can't even get your forum name right so probably not going to be too hot on the old maffs innit? I would have hoped that the word From might have given him a clue although he may well think that we all have the same christian name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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