pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) I want to get a semi auto 12g for around £500. I really don't know where to start with semi autos, I've seen some old 2nd hand berettas for the same money as new hatsans. Any pointers will be much appreciated. Thanks Edited November 22, 2013 by pigeon-hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Browning auto 5... A mans gun The original and best Edited November 22, 2013 by happypig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 How much do these go for, I have looked at Brownings and I'm not sure I like the look of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 i was in same position 2 weeks ago. after lots and lots of uffing and puffing over range of semis i decide to go for new escort its 28 inches barrel with set of 5 chokes nice gun and for 395 with 3 years guarantee its spot on. litlle recoil and its really nice gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x bootneck Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Beretta all the way, I have an al391 that I got within your budget and love it. The older 303 guns are awesome and again in budget plus they hold there value if looked after. I have never had a hatson or similar so afraid I can't comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I've seen a couple of beretta 301&302 but in quite ruff condition, I'd like to go beretta as I have a silver pigeon which I love. But I have 2 guns now the missis only knows I have 1 so I don't really want to spend to much, so hence leaning to a Hanson as there around £400 new. Plus il only be using it for pigeon bashing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I've seen a couple of beretta 301&302 but in quite ruff condition, I'd like to go beretta as I have a silver pigeon which I love. But I have 2 guns now the missis only knows I have 1 so I don't really want to spend to much, so hence leaning to a Hanson as there around £400 new. Plus il only be using it for pigeon bashing That is why i got mine it will do same job as anything else. just half price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 The thing with the Hanson I've been reading some conflicting reviews on them, it looks like that people that have them think there great and a lot of people that don't seem to slag them off. I'm just looking for a cheap auto, don't get me wrong I'd love to get the beretta a400 but can't warrant spending £1500 on a gun that I will be sitting in a muddy field with. I have my silver pigeon for clays, so the auto is purely for rough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I would go beretta a second hand one in your price will lose nothing if you want to pass it on later a hatsan at say 400 new will yield you around 200 when you want to sell it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I understand a beretta will hold there value more but for £400 for a new Hanson don't seem that that bad and for that kind of money no need to sell it really. I like buying things not selling lol. That's why I have to hide them from the missis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Saying that I've just found a really nice a302 for £495 umm think il go for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Another question, are all auto a 3 cartridge magazine as that 302 is only a 2 cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 All section 2 are 2 cartridge - plus one in the chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ok thanks that makes sense, new to semi autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoi99 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 AL391 from Beretta. Good value, solid gun, fits Mr Average very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eredel Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Saying that I've just found a really nice a302 for £495 umm think il go for that That seems a bit on the pricey side to me, mine was £300 with a few minor knocks to the wood but fine for the hide and occasional clays. Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Got a practically unused al390 for 450. Plenty out there in your budget. If u will use steel and it will get bashed then a hatsand might due the job nicely. Just keep it clean, as with any semi or it will jam when you don't want it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) steel proof was important factor for me that why gone for HATSAN . try one . btw there was some problems with hatsan escort mk1 but mk2 is so far problem free. and quick load system is spot on ( in my opinion ) its take that bit of hassle from loading and after 3 days of using it its nice and fast. Edited November 23, 2013 by alendil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Spoke to my local gun dealer where I got my silver pigeon, he laughed at me when I said does he have hatsan autos, he said he use to stock them and pritty much every one came back, but he has got a 2nd hand Remington 1000 for £300 I'm going to have a look this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon-hunter Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 The Remington had seen better days about 10 yrs ago, found a nice one but it had been sold, think il have to be patient with this and jus hold out, still thinking on the Hatsan tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 The Remington had seen better days about 10 yrs ago, found a nice one but it had been sold, think il have to be patient with this and jus hold out, still thinking on the Hatsan tho Try one firs before you nock it out just make sure its MK2 new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Ask yourself if they are such great guns why is there a Escort up for sale almost every day on here ? If they are so great why do people not hang on to them ? I have never owned one to be honest but I shoot with someone who does and its been nothing but a pain , its kept clean and he uses the right cartridges but he still gets more jams in a day than my Beretta had in 5 years , your £500 would be so much better spent on a S/H Beretta and as mentioned you will get the same money when the Mrs finds out and you have to sell it Also ask yourself this By the time a £350 hatsan has been made and the maker has shipped it and made a profit on it , the importer has sent it to the gun shop and made a profit on it , the dealer has sold it to you and made a profit on it , how much money do you really think has gone into building that gun with quality materials ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 The Remington had seen better days about 10 yrs ago, found a nice one but it had been sold, think il have to be patient with this and jus hold out, still thinking on the Hatsan tho I am not going to knock the hatsan as a lot of people have them and swear by them also a lot swear at them.i have known a few people who have them and it is split 50-50 good and bad reports.the issue of resale price needs to be considered as when most of us buy guns we dry mount in a shop or someones house which is not the same as shooting and what feels good indoors may not be so good out.i have lost a small fortune on guns over the years because they did not suit me when the trigger was pulled.you can pay as much for a fifteen year old semi as a brand new one that should give a clue as to what one would be a safer bet for the years to come.my gunsmith also does not stock new hatsan and for the same reason he has a massive stock of the others though.he told me he was in the business to earn a living not a bad reputation which is what he was getting with all the returns.anyway its your call and your cash.good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 If you want a gun which looks nice and you'll get your money back on in 5 years then buy a Beretta. If you want something which wont matter if it gets dropped,covered in mud etc buy a Hatsan. I have a Hatsan and it always works faultlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan gun Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Beretta a303 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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