12 bore out of proof?

[hoggysreels]

Just when does a shotgun become "out of proof" .. is there an official lack of requirement/standard etc or is it judgement via a gunsmith/proof house etc ..

 

Basically would like the offical line, should one exist ...

[Andy H]

have a read of this.

http://bilder.kammeret.no/albums/userpics/10110/Notes_on_the_proof_on_shotguns___other_small_arms.pdf

[HDAV]

When the barrel wall thickness is reduced beyond tolerance or it is no longer tight on its face and would likely fail a reproof

[Gunman]

The actual definition is , When the bore diameter has been enlarged to the next bore size up from the original marked size .

If the chamber has been deepened ,it has been converted to ejector , it has bulges or pits ,frailer of the braze between the lumps .

Signs of cracks in the action . There other criteria such as welding , addition of muzzle breaks or multi chokes ,electro plating re-brazing lumps.

There is no mention in British Proof Law to wall thickness ,if the gun is off the face or loose in the action it is not out of proof but it would be rejected as unfit for proof if submitted .

A rule of thumb is , that if a gun is not in a fit state to be submitted to Proof then it must be considered to be potentially out of proof , the law is some what vague as to what makes a gun visually out of proof but it is at the discretion of the Proof Master so gun smiths are guided by what is currently acceptable by the Proof houses .

[Dougy]

So,

 

 

If a shoty is out of proof then is the next stage in its life the furnace or can it be given an extended life via re-sleeving obviously taking into account the cost of repair to the cost of the shotgun value.

[The Ghost]

I always thought they were sent to Turkey, rebadged then sent back to us.

[Paul223]

So,

 

 

If a shoty is out of proof then is the next stage in its life the furnace or can it be given an extended life via re-sleeving obviously taking into account the cost of repair to the cost of the shotgun value.

Usually yes most things can be sorted at a price

[hoggysreels]

Thanks for the info ...

[Scully]

I always thought they were sent to Turkey, rebadged then sent back to us.

Now now.....

[Gunman]

So,

 

 

If a shoty is out of proof then is the next stage in its life the furnace or can it be given an extended life via re-sleeving obviously taking into account the cost of repair to the cost of the shotgun value.

Don't want to be the one to be pedantic but a gun can not be "re-sleeved" unless it has been sleeved before . Unless the gun is way past redemption then it may well be worth attempting re-proof ,but only examination by some one who regularly puts guns into proof will be able to give an realistic opinion as to its chances of passing .Both Proof houses have of late been a little more strict on what they will accept in the amount of remaining pitting on a re submission and of overall outside condition so we are having to do more work in preparation than in recent years this has resulted in the cost increasing ,but depending on the gun it is then down to the owner as to whether to go ahead or not . Pass or fail the owner is liable for the cost of all work undertaken . Oh and please " shottie" , no.