HDAV Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 If camouflage didn't work they wouldn't be able to give it away as shooters would just use any type of clothing. In the right environment camouflage pays dividends. It's what's in your catch bag that counts But I don't think I'll wear my works hi vis jacket in the forest although it is warm, waterproof and comfortable it just won't work for me Never seen hunter orange then....... Most camo is pointless, designed to fool the buyer not the prey...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Never seen hunter orange then....... Most camo is pointless, designed to fool the buyer not the prey...... I can honestly say that I have never seen hunter orange, but if everything is orange around you it could come in handy I very much doubt most camo is pointless as not all animals spectrums are the same, as proven many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 If camouflage didn't work they wouldn't be able to give it away as shooters would just use any type of clothing. In the right environment camouflage pays dividends. It's what's in your catch bag that counts But I don't think I'll wear my works hi vis jacket in the forest although it is warm, waterproof and comfortable it just won't work for me It works if you stay dead still, its designed to break up an outline, like a hen pheasant, you could put your foot next to one and unless it moved you probably wouldn't see it. But once it moves you'll instantly be onto it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTS Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) I can honestly say that I have never seen hunter orange, but if everything is orange around you it could come in handy I very much doubt most camo is pointless as not all animals spectrums are the same, as proven many times. I can honestly say that I have never seen hunter orange, but if everything is orange around you it could come in handy I very much doubt most camo is pointless as not all animals spectrums are the same, as proven many times. Bang on - hence the reason Sitka gear make different patterns for different game, not environments (sort of) Edited December 31, 2013 by DTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I can honestly say that I have never seen hunter orange, but if everything is orange around you it could come in handy I very much doubt most camo is pointless as not all animals spectrums are the same, as proven many times. You've never seen hunters wear orange? Its compulsary in some places I've hunted while I was in the US. I do find it amusing that they wear expensive Realtree type stuff, then put an orange bib on. Trust me mate, camoflague is next to useless unless you're perfectly still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 You've never seen hunters wear orange? Its compulsary in some places I've hunted while I was in the US. I do find it amusing that they wear expensive Realtree type stuff, then put an orange bib on. Trust me mate, camoflague is next to useless unless you're perfectly still. When hunters wear orange it's not for camouflage it's for others to see them, ie so no one gets shot accidentally. Are we not all talking about camouflage? The meaning of camo is to blend into your environment your talking about a health and safety vest, it's compulsory where ever you go. Obviously you don't run around but camo does help Put it this way when your hunting dear you obviously don't wear anything blue as this is picked up instantly. All I'm saying is that camo does help as it has been proven by some of the top experts in the field. Not all game reacts the same way all spectrums are different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Like I said camo is designed to catch the hunter not the prey..... Sit still for long enough and red stags will **** on you..... These experts you talk of any of them sponsored by real tree or mossy oak? Camo has to blend with the environment and deceive the prey to work.... It's the human silhouette most animals shy from and their sense of smell is far better than sight (certain birds excepted) but I am happy to be proven wrong..... Hunter orange is so another human doesn't shoot you in America....... Humans are deceived by camo......animals mostly are not.... Edited December 31, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Like I said camo is designed to catch the hunter not the prey..... Sit still for long enough and red stags will **** on you..... These experts you talk of any of them sponsored by real tree or mossy oak? Camo has to blend with the environment and deceive the prey to work.... It's the human silhouette most animals shy from and their sense of smell is far better than sight (certain birds excepted) but I am happy to be proven wrong..... Happy new year and whatever works for you and your sport is all good Atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 When hunters wear orange it's not for camouflage it's for others to see them, ie so no one gets shot accidentally. Are we not all talking about camouflage? The meaning of camo is to blend into your environment your talking about a health and safety vest, it's compulsory where ever you go. Obviously you don't run around but camo does help Put it this way when your hunting dear you obviously don't wear anything blue as this is picked up instantly. All I'm saying is that camo does help as it has been proven by some of the top experts in the field. Not all game reacts the same way all spectrums are different There isn't much point in me saying it again but camoflauge is mostly redundant if you're moving around, my example of a hen pheasant shows this perfectly, without my dog I'd probably walk past them all, but he can smell them and gets them to move, once they move I can see them, but without the dog they'll just sit there as I walk right past. Its movement or smell that scares prey animals. We have deer on our shoot and they don't seem to be afraid of the bright blue feeders scattered around, but I bet if a feeder got up and walked towards them they'd be off. So camo will work if you're still and down wind. It will work on humans much better, hence why the military use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 There isn't much point in me saying it again but camoflauge is mostly redundant if you're moving around, my example of a hen pheasant shows this perfectly, without my dog I'd probably walk past them all, but he can smell them and gets them to move, once they move I can see them, but without the dog they'll just sit there as I walk right past. Its movement or smell that scares prey animals. We have deer on our shoot and they don't seem to be afraid of the bright blue feeders scattered around, but I bet if a feeder got up and walked towards them they'd be off. So camo will work if you're still and down wind. It will work on humans much better, hence why the military use it. All I'm saying is camo helps, it doesn't make you invisible or undetectable but in certain scenario it does help. Dear are not going to be scared of the bright blue feeders just sitting there are they?? Dear can pick the colour blue out a lot easier than other colours that was the meaning, not they are scared of everything blue If camo doesn't work for you then that's it But it does work for millions of others HNY Atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Happy new year to you too sir.... Game was shot long before camo...... Never underestimate the placebo effect.. I wear realtree therefore I hunt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 When I very first started on clays I was advised to wear as little as possible so the gun mount is close to your body. That's probably why so many of the leading names in outdoor wear are thin and warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 When I very first started on clays I was advised to wear as little as possible so the gun mount is close to your body. That's probably why so many of the leading names in outdoor wear are thin and warm.Ah so that's reason behind the the realtree mankini ....happy gregorian new year sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Happy new year to you as well HDAV... by the way what size did you want :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I'll take an extra small if you please To wear as a thong ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 A mate of mine shoots 120 deer a year and only wears a pair of green overalls and rigger boots No problem Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I can honestly say that I have never seen hunter orange, but if everything is orange around you it could come in handy I very much doubt most camo is pointless as not all animals spectrums are the same, as proven many times. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=orange+camo&qpvt=orange+camo&FORM=IGRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 With regard to shooting clays in green, tweeds etc I think people just tend to turn up in what is their usual shooting gear. On the rare occassions I shoot clays I turn up in mostly green clothing with either my shooting coat over the top (big pockets for cartridges) if its raining or a shooting waistcoat (again because of the big pockets) which is either waxed cotton or tweed. Was once beating at a local shoot where a top Scottish clay shooter had been invited by one of the syndicate members; he turned up in all his full competition gear emblazoned with sponsors badges etc. He didn't shoot game as a rule so obviously wasn't equipped with Barbour, Le Chameau etc etc. Nobody minded, he just looked a bit out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Could be worse. People could start turning up wearing lycra complete with frog eye (male camel toe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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