rwade545 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi all, Looking to sell my Beretta xtrema 3.5" shotgun that i got for wildfowling but have not used as much as i thought i would since picking up some alternative non toxic shells. Now as I live in N.I things are different regarding firearms and shotgun sales. As far as I can tell I can trade it in at a gunshop are they can sell it for me on commission, or arrange to remove it from my licence and arrange transfer to another RFD as it would then be on their stock books. Does anyone know the procedure for selling it privately? As far as I can make out it is Agree on sale to person Person has to then apply to have it added onto their licence with a letter from myself starting intent to sell. Once granted to person they can collect and I then apply to have it removed from my licence. Does that sound about right? The firearms branch here all seemed a bit confused when I asked them about it. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Pretty much it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi all, Looking to sell my Beretta xtrema 3.5" shotgun that i got for wildfowling but have not used as much as i thought i would since picking up some alternative non toxic shells. Now as I live in N.I things are different regarding firearms and shotgun sales. As far as I can tell I can trade it in at a gunshop are they can sell it for me on commission, or arrange to remove it from my licence and arrange transfer to another RFD as it would then be on their stock books. Does anyone know the procedure for selling it privately? As far as I can make out it is Agree on sale to person Person has to then apply to have it added onto their licence with a letter from myself starting intent to sell. Once granted to person they can collect and I then apply to have it removed from my licence. Does that sound about right? The firearms branch here all seemed a bit confused when I asked them about it. Regards Where in NI are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Truflex- pm sent Tweedledee- thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Do you know what you hope to change to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Thinking I might get a 12g 3" silver pigeon, have a 20guage silver pigeon and a 687 el so trying to keep the fit similar but at the same time use a sxs when game shooting in Wales with my uncle and find the double trigger difficult to get used to, but saves me the expense of flying with my gun, so might get a cheap sxs double trigger to try and get used to the triggers. Not sure really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Use 1 finger not 2,easy and just as quick,just takes a day to get used to..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nice gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 but it is more fun to put a finger on each trigger and then wonder why your shoulder aches from the double discharge! Have just found i sometimes end up pulling the second trigger first and the trigger guard second. Just need to get used to a double trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjm Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 One finger is a must, you are looking for bother using two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Agree on sale to person Person has to then apply to have it added onto their licence with a letter from myself starting intent to sell. Once granted to person they can collect and I then apply to have it removed from my licence. FEB don't allow a firearm to be "owned" by two people at once. You need to apply to have the firearm removed at the same time as the buyer applies to add it on. The best way is that you and the buyer submit your forms to the same FEO and ask him/her to put it in with a linked application form. That way they should be dealt with together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Can a gun be on loan to someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 It can be on loan to someone else but not have two owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 How does that work pastiebap? Does this mean a gun can be on two permits at once or does this just mean on loan when in the persons company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjm Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 How does that work pastiebap? Does this mean a gun can be on two permits at once or does this just mean on loan when in the persons company? Yes it can be on two permits at once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwade545 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why are our laws so confusing compare to the rest of the uk. :s think I know what to do so just gotvto figure out figure out gun watch now to try and sell it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Are you intending to replace the shotgun in future? If so remember that if you take it off altogether without replacing it straight away you will have to pay £26 for a variation to add a new gun on in the future. One advantage of going the RFD route is that they usually carry a stock of scrappers and will do a one on one of for you. This keeps the slot for a shotgun and in future you can do a one on one off removing the scrapper and adding your new gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Do we have to apply for a variation for every gun we go and buy? Or can we sell one gun I.e o/u to a rfd and then buy a different o/u and get the rfd to put the serial num on our fac? Probably sounds a load of **** but it's one than always confused me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Or can we sell one gun I.e o/u to a rfd and then buy a different o/u and get the rfd to put the serial num on our fac? You can do a one on one off at the shop, as long as its the same calibre and type, for all firearms in N Ireland. The paper work can be done at the shop. They will sort it with the firearms branch. The Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2011For some time a system has been in place to allow “one off – one on” exchanges of shotguns in Northern Ireland. From 1st December 2011 the system was extended to other firearms. The exchange of rifles and pistols may only take place with registered firearms dealers (not between certificate holders) and firearms may only be exchanged for another of the “same calibre and type”. Prohibited weapons are excluded from the provision. Transfers must be notified to PSNI within 72 hours by both the firearm certificate holder and Registered Firearms Dealer Edited January 14, 2014 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 You can do a one on one off at the shop, as long as its the same calibre and type, for all firearms in N Ireland. The paper work can be done at the shop. They will sort it with the firearms branch. What he said. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 You can do a one on one off at the shop, as long as its the same calibre and type, for all firearms in N Ireland. The paper work can be done at the shop. They will sort it with the firearms branch. Cheers mate but would I still have to pay the £26? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Cheers mate but would I still have to pay the £26? No. A one-on, one-off is currently free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 No. A one-on, one-off is currently free. Cheers mate it help solve a fatherly son dispute, and I won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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