paddymax123 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 hi guys to really bring the crows into a field the land owner has asked me to put come mixed cut corn down that he has lying around, just to check 1 if this legal and 2 if yes then has anyone had any luck with this? the land I am over is grass land so if it is legal would it be best to leave the corn in one big pile or several smaller ones thanks for your time guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 As far as I know its legal. you can't use recordings live birds or iirc flashing mirror devices. on grassland I would use feed troughs if possible crows are used to seeing and feeding from them. put them within range of your hide site and if possible use crow decoys I like to put a magpie nearby seems to work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymax123 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 cheers for the advice, there are no troughs on the land so what would be the best way to put it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 in lines (narrow strips) as though feeding livestock, or if you can get a bit of old guttering use that. if possible bait more than one field. then you can move on to another field. You don't get many chances in the same spot. just make sure you keep the food supply constant till after you shoot. Don't forget other birds will benefit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymax123 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 ok cheers I will try that. how long would you say would be a good to bait them into an area for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 they catch on very fast to new food sources especially this time of year, a few days should get plenty coming. main thing is field craft you can put them off very easily with movement white face hands showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 You might find it easier to just put out an odd dead bunny or roadkill a lot easier to hit different areas like that. they soon cotton on to that food creating danger, I can stop them feeding on sheep nuts by shooting them twice on the trot as they try that one but only in said location. Crows are quick learners and seem to communicate danger through their family group. With a stack of waste grain I suggest a big ladder trap or the likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuzzy Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I've heard that some people has put out black split open rubbish bags crows and magpies love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 As far as I know its legal. you can't use recordings live birds or iirc flashing mirror devices. on grassland I would use feed troughs if possible crows are used to seeing and feeding from them. put them within range of your hide site and if possible use crow decoys I like to put a magpie nearby seems to work for me. I am aware of the live recording law but unsighted on the iirc flashing mirror devices. What are these and Where would I find chapter and verse to read up on? I ask because there was a PW post long time back on using suspended ballroom mini mirror balls and I was thinking of giving it a go. Nobody then offered on any comments on the legality so genuinely interested. Many thanks. Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Just a quick search found this http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/69 Prohibition of certain methods of killing or taking wild birds.E+W (1)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person— (a)sets in position any of the following articles, being an article which is of such a nature and is so placed as to be calculated to cause bodily injury to any wild bird coming into contact therewith, that is to say, any springe, trap, gin, snare, hook and line, any electrical device for killing, stunning or frightening or any poisonous, poisoned or stupefying substance; (b)uses for the purpose of killing or taking any wild bird any such article as aforesaid, whether or not of such a nature and so placed as aforesaid, or any net, baited board, bird-lime or substance of a like nature to bird-lime; ©uses for the purpose of killing or taking any wild bird— (i)any bow or crossbow; (ii)any explosive other than ammunition for a firearm; (iii)any automatic or semi-automatic weapon; (iv)any shot-gun of which the barrel has an internal diameter at the mule of more than one and three-quarter inches; (v)any device for illuminating a target or any sighting device for night shooting; (vi)any form of artificial lighting or any mirror or other dazzling device; (vii)any gas or smoke not falling within paragraphs (a) and (b); or (viii)any chemical wetting agent; (d)uses as a decoy, for the purpose of killing or taking any wild bird, any sound recording or any live bird or other animal whatever which is tethered, or which is secured by means of braces or other similar appliances, or which is blind, maimed or injured; F23 . . . (e)uses any mechanically propelled vehicle in immediate pursuit of a wild bird for the purpose of killing or taking that bird, [F24 ; or (f)knowingly causes or permits to be done an act which is mentioned in the foregoing provisions of this subsection and which is not lawful under subsection (5),] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Just a quick search found this http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/69 Prohibition of certain methods of killing or taking wild birds.E+W[/size] (1)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person— (a)sets in position any of the following articles, being an article which is of such a nature and is so placed as to be calculated to cause bodily injury to any wild bird coming into contact therewith, that is to say, any springe, trap, gin, snare, hook and line, any electrical device for killing, stunning or frightening or any poisonous, poisoned or stupefying substance; (b)uses for the purpose of killing or taking any wild bird any such article as aforesaid, whether or not of such a nature and so placed as aforesaid, or any net, baited board, bird-lime or substance of a like nature to bird-lime; ©uses for the purpose of killing or taking any wild bird— (i)any bow or crossbow; (ii)any explosive other than ammunition for a firearm; (iii)any automatic or semi-automatic weapon; (iv)any shot-gun of which the barrel has an internal diameter at the mule of more than one and three-quarter inches; (v)any device for illuminating a target or any sighting device for night shooting; (vi)any form of artificial lighting or any mirror or other dazzling device; (vii)any gas or smoke not falling within paragraphs (a) and (b); or (viii)any chemical wetting agent; (d)uses as a decoy, for the purpose of killing or taking any wild bird, any sound recording or any live bird or other animal whatever which is tethered, or which is secured by means of braces or other similar appliances, or which is blind, maimed or injured; F23 . . . (e)uses any mechanically propelled vehicle in immediate pursuit of a wild bird for the purpose of killing or taking that bird, [F24 ; or (f)knowingly causes or permits to be done an act which is mentioned in the foregoing provisions of this subsection and which is not lawful under subsection (5),] Many thanks for taking th effort. Much appreciated. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 No problem. Interesting that some of the popular cawing crow and digital callers are illegal unless you are just photographing the corvids you call. The law is complicated as far as shooting is concerned. And isn't getting any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I've used (with a fair amount of success) a sheep fleece from shearing. Pegged out or weighted down with a rock in the field, with some strands of red ribbon streaming away from it. A few crow / magpie decoys nearby, and get out of sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Make a rough nest with some eggs in, break a couple, they will be on eggs anytime now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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