Lord Geordie Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Hi chaps! I have been having a rummage through long forgotten dark corners and crevices, and found a few pocket watches! Anyone have a rough value to these please? They are all modern pieces! 2 skeleton style and one bog standard. The two skeleton ones are top wind, and the standard is key wind. Pics to follow. I need the funds to convert my loft! Edited March 7, 2014 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Second watch Lastly, the key wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 The Rethyo one seems to part of some heritage collection.... Not worth anything i'm afraid http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rethyo-Pocket-Watch-Heritage-Collection-Silver-Plated-Boxed-/171143984707 Any makers details on the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I can't find any details on the other two! The first is a Chronograph with moon phase and it all works (not just for show) I did find a Rethyo one which was broken for £3.99 for spares! Didn't know it would have been so cheap! I think I may get more for the key thats used to wind it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 You can always tell by just looking at the movement for a watch that will be worth more. Not sure what you may already know about winding or automatic movements, but the 'bearings' on which the gears, rotor and mainspring sit are known a Jewels. They are often purple in colour, expensive watches use lots of these. Also the gears on them watches have no working marks, I think they may be machine cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 I got a lovely silver on about 2.1/2" dia it was made in 1911 and kept perfect time I had it in my pocket for about three years just had to wind it every morning it only cost about £40 then the bloody main spring broke they wanted twice as much as it cost to make a new spring for it. So I decided to get another one I found a nice one on ebay and got it again about £40 and it keeps good time but I did not check the size when I bought it and it turned out to be only 1.1/2" dia so I do not use it as the reason that I got one in the first place was so that I could see the time without putting my glasses. I had an old wrist watch some years ago I do not no where it came from but it was a rectangular silver one with beautiful works with lots of jueles it was probably made around 1910. I sold it with a load of old silver coins that I had hanging around and got next to nothing for it something that I have regretted ever since my advice to anyone would be if you do not need the money never sell anything made of gold or silver as its value can for the most part only go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 As above. We inherited a couple of old silver pocket watches. It cost more to get them going than they'll ever be worth. Sentimental value to my wife only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 I have one presented to my Great Grandad by the townsfolk for winning the MM in the First World War, Doesn't work and have been told its not worth repairing as it has corrosion inside on some of the bits, It's engraved to show who it was presented to and why and by whom Will never part with it Incidentally we also have a silver rose bowl engraved and presented by the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 My dad has collected them for years, most are junk in terms of monetary value, but if you respect the engenering that go into the design then there quite fascinating, I have an 1860s chronograph based on a fuzee movment. It's not worth much but I like it. But sadly many a time the scrap value of the case out ways the watch value and the chains value is way more again, times will kill off the pocket watch for a second time as they are ripped up and melted down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 I have one presented to my Great Grandad by the townsfolk for winning the MM in the First World War, Doesn't work and have been told its not worth repairing as it has corrosion inside on some of the bits, It's engraved to show who it was presented to and why and by whom Will never part with it Incidentally we also have a silver rose bowl engraved and presented by the same Drop it in oil for a few weeks and then strip it down de grease and put it back together. You will be surprised what works again Seen my dad do it so many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Drop it in oil for a few weeks and then strip it down de grease and put it back together. You will be surprised what works again Seen my dad do it so many times. Way beyond my pay grade, wouldn't know where to start stripping it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Way beyond my pay grade, wouldn't know where to start stripping it Me too am afraid way too fiddly. In a serious note thought that's what you need a very keen amature as they will not charge the work to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klatuveradanikto Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) My 1916 Herbert Wolf full hunter 9ct gold watch with period monogramed fob chain which i wear very often approx value £2000 New watches are worth very little especially the collection watches but a original working watch is a investment. Edited March 8, 2014 by klatuveradanikto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Me too am afraid way too fiddly. In a serious note thought that's what you need a very keen amature as they will not charge the work to do it Some of the mechanism Face I will put a pic of the inscription up tomoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Some of the mechanism Face I will put a pic of the inscription up tomoz That'looks like a fuzee movement pal that will be half the problem there is a tiny chain that gos round a pulley to regulate the balance. If that's rusted up it will not be going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 That'looks like a fuzee movement pal that will be half the problem there is a tiny chain that gos round a pulley to regulate the balance. If that's rusted up it will not be going anywhere. I put it into a watch repairer, What he said was that it wasn't rusted up, some of the balance things?? Had corrosion marks meaning that it might not keep true time due to being out of balance? Sorry Lord Geordie for hijacking your thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I put it into a watch repairer, What he said was that it wasn't rusted up, some of the balance things?? Had corrosion marks meaning that it might not keep true time due to being out of balance? Sorry Lord Geordie for hijacking your thread It's a Watch thread Don't worry about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 It's a Watch thread What! a Pigeon Watch thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I put it into a watch repairer, What he said was that it wasn't rusted up, some of the balance things?? Had corrosion marks meaning that it might not keep true time due to being out of balance? Sorry Lord Geordie for hijacking your thread Rite ow I get you. The balance wheel is the big wheel with little pegs coming off it it has a tiny spring ontop it's the first thing you see. I wouldn't worry about it keeping perfect time pal keep using it as that's the best thing for them It looks a nice watch and with the sentimental value it should be used I will ask my dad next time I speak to him if there are any other options for you All the best Karl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I must say that it puzzles me quite why people buy these reproduction things when if you like old pocket watches you can get nice working hundred year old silver ones under £50 ok if you want something special they can cost quite a lot of money but I would rather have a more common watch that was made over a hundred years ago than some cheap imitation of something that I could never afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Not a watch but I have a ships clock that I got from my dad, long since stopped working and would probably cost more to put right than its worth. Case is heavy brass but was painted over by some idle steward not wanting to polish it. Supplied by Ainsley of (I think) North Shields. Came off S.S. Fireglow a North Thames scuffler operated by Stephenson Clark (carrots on the funnel) when it was scrapped. My dad was bosun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Rite ow I get you. The balance wheel is the big wheel with little pegs coming off it it has a tiny spring ontop it's the first thing you see. I wouldn't worry about it keeping perfect time pal keep using it as that's the best thing for them It looks a nice watch and with the sentimental value it should be used I will ask my dad next time I speak to him if there are any other options for you All the best Karl. Thanks for that It seems to me like its been overwound, It doesn't run at the moment :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Not a watch but I have a ships clock that I got from my dad, long since stopped working and would probably cost more to put right than its worth. Case is heavy brass but was painted over by some idle steward not wanting to polish it. Supplied by Ainsley of (I think) North Shields. Came off S.S. Fireglow a North Thames scuffler operated by Stephenson Clark (carrots on the funnel) when it was scrapped. My dad was bosun I have a ship's clock that was going to be thrown out as it had broken. I replaced the original workings with a quartz movement with suitable hands. OK it's not original but it lives on the sitting room wall and tells the time. Plus, I know its provenance. Paint is easily stripped from brass and the clock will look better for it. It's just that you will now have to polish it! Reference the Elgin watch (back on topic), I have one of those, it was my grandfather's, he bought it while living in Detroit during the depression. They can be bought quite cheaply on the Bay of E so you could buy one to cannibalise. I'd never part with mine, sentimental, I wear it with a three piece suit for weddings & funerals and it keeps time for the few hours that I need it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Engraving as promised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Reference the Elgin watch (back on topic), I have one of those, it was my grandfather's, he bought it while living in Detroit during the depression. They can be bought quite cheaply on the Bay of E so you could buy one to cannibalise. I'd never part with mine, sentimental, I wear it with a three piece suit for weddings & funerals and it keeps time for the few hours that I need it to. I like that idea, Will they all be the same size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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