Red 9R Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 When my SGC is up for renewal later this year I am thinking of putting in for firearms at the same time, if I do apply it will be for a .22LR with Mod. Assuming I get it approved apart from the quick second shot is there any advantage in getting a semi auto over a bolt action rifle or vice versa? i.e. is a bolt action quieter in opperation than a semi auto? thanks Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Obviously a semi you dont have to waste time pulling the bolt back..which means quicker time from firing the 1st shot to firing the next shot. Thats a pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Bolt actions are generally cheaper to buy. Semi-autos can be cartridge fussy and wont cycle them properly but its not a problem once you've found a good cartridge. Bolts are quieter yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Bolt actions are more accurate. and as others have said, they are quieter and less fussy on ammo. Finally, they do not have to be kept as clean as a semi to operate properly. However, they are not as much fun! Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 i never had a lr but surely there can t be much noise from a new semi,and as for cleaning i would do that religiously after each outing.i think i ll go the semi route just to be different but then im lazy like the idea of 2nd shot being there straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Would go for a bolt action, not sure how loud the noise of a semi action in action on 22lr would be but it'd be enough to put me off getting one which was moderated, added advantages already stated above of accuracy, less cleaning and cheaper to buy... But that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 If your budget will allow, buy bought I have always liked me semi autos and have had a few Be prepared to spent £500+ if you want a nice 10/22 or a Browning Buckmark or go down the cheapo route and buy a CZ Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 iv had both and i find the bolt action better, for ammo no jams with it.go for bolt action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Anschutz are nice little guns and very accurate. Paid around 200 odd for it... I think though can't remember now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 A semi makes a tad more noise than a bolt when firing, which is mostly masked from downrange by the bullet impact -however it has then been reloaded without a further incidence of noise - when an already alerted quarry might leg it. Bolt loading the next round is actually quite a noisy affair in silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 How can you call CZ's the cheapo route they are first class fierarms, I own a CZ 452-2E ZKM and find it to be a outstanding preformer, among the 22's, they are good value for money, by that I dont mean a piece of **** falling apart worth a tenner, they are exellent I got my one for £280, it is fitted wit a harris bipod, hawkey illuminated reticle scope, cammo gun sling, and a sako moderator, lethal on the rabbits, exellent for lamping, what more could you ask for. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 How can you call CZ's the cheapo route they are first class fierarms, I own a CZ 452-2E ZKM and find it to be a outstanding preformer, among the 22's, they are good value for money, by that I dont mean a piece of **** falling apart worth a tenner, they are exellent I got my one for £280, it is fitted wit a harris bipod, hawkey illuminated reticle scope, cammo gun sling, and a sako moderator, lethal on the rabbits, exellent for lamping, what more could you ask for. B) B) And it seems to be the personal choice of many .17hmr owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Dazzyboi if you have now got your 17HMR rifle, how come it still says (coming soon) in your signiature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Dazzyboi if you have now got your 17HMR rifle, how come it still says (coming soon) in your signiature Because i havnt got it...yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 My signiature still says, coming soon on one of my guns, I really need to get round to buying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Bolt actions are more accurate. and as others have said, they are quieter and less fussy on ammo. Finally, they do not have to be kept as clean as a semi to operate properly. However, they are not as much fun! Don Aw Don ............I thought a man of your knowledge could elaborate as to why . I'm not sure if I totally agree with this but if your refering to to the fact that due to the blow back action the round is chambered via a spring loaded mag that if wound to tight could cause the bullet to misalign into the breach slightly and therefore deforming the head then yes you have a point ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,But if after a lot of money and development then I see no reason why both actions can't be as accurate as each other . For a out and out hunting set up then a Bolt action ...........If you belong to a Rifle club and shoot quite alot on the range or any range for example then a semi auto . And it seems to be the personal choice of many .17hmr owners For some reason CZ,s have undermined you get what you pay for rule book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 I couldnt agree more B) B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 9R Posted January 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Thanks for the replys , it seems both have many good points with very few negative points, "Dead Ive" if I get one then it will be 99% hunting mostly walkabouts with a few trips out in the pickup after harvest, I guess a bolt action would be "safer" with two people in the truck but a semi quicker if we get a field full of rabbits.. I live in hope. Guess the best thing will be to get my ticket then see whats for sale, do I have to specify bolt or semi auto on the application or just .22? Again thanks for the comments much appreciated.. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 It depends on whether you have to state it. I did as my branch put it down 'semi auto' but not all forces are the same. Try not to if you can get away with it cause it'll give you more of a choice If you decide to change later on (wont require a variation) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbruno Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 bolts in general are for the most part more acurate and less fussy with amo i have both if you do go with a semi go with either ruger,browning buck mark , anchutz,or cz and the same companys if for a bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonrms Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I prefer bolt action... I have both my .22lr anchultz and also my cz 452E 17hmr in bolt... semi's are fine.. but for me I like the control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 do I have to specify bolt or semi auto on the application or just .22? Ian According to Staffs then it'd be no ................You'll purchase the action of your choice .........the reciept will have a box to fill in stating type of action aquired which you'll send off .............When your license is returned after renewal or a variation then the relevant details are placed on then ...........it's the calibre that is the focus of attention not the action . 99% hunting ............Bolt action .............having been shooting rabbits for up to 15 years I can only count on 2 hands when I have ever seen a field full where a SA would be an advantage ........On my permissions that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 9R Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Once again, thanks for the feed back. I think on balance I will go for a bolt action as it will be almost 100% hunting sometimes in the back of a pickup (mostly walking), it will be good to know the bolt is open and the rifle is safe when others are in the truck. Cheers all Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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