felly100 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Good luck to you I hope that all goes well personally I do not like the idea of having something like that done in a country that I do not speak there language even if most of them can speak english but that is up to you. When I was in hospital with my hart problem in this country we seemed to have a lot of nurses that spoke english as a second language that is fine but misunderstandings can happen as there are many terms that we use in daily speech that that can cause confusion. Yes,sucky sucky,said by a pensioner in hospital, means "pass me a Werthers Original"! Edited April 23, 2014 by felly100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Do people actually get this op on the NHS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Do people actually get this op on the NHS? I did a google search to find out what it was,if your obesity is life threatening the NHS may consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I wish you all the best with your recovery Regards H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmooney Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I can say it's worth all the trouble. I've lost 5.5 stone so far since my op on 15 Nov. 2013 and if anything at all comes if it other than the fact that my daughters will have me to walk them down the aisle it would be a bonus. It may seem like an "easy out" to some but let me tell you it is not. It's a tool, an effective tool, but a tool nonetheless. I was put straight by my cardiologist who told me your heart is sound now but in 5 years we will be having a different conversation if you don't make some drastic changes. On top of that he told me that with my Rheumatoid Arthritis that if he put me on an exercise program to lose the weight that I would be crippled and they wouldn't give me joint replacements since I'm too young (37) currently. Since the op, I'll hike 3 or 4 miles with no complaint. Pretty soon I'll be able to out walk my mates on a rough shoot who would have left me in the dust in prior years. It's a new lease on life and I wish ANYONE who undertakes it nothing but the best and will gladly welcome them in to the club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88b Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Because I am over weight and have yo yo dieted for 25+ years so before my health deteriated I decided to be pro active in sorting it out at my own expense Good for you, I hope it's a total success . My wife was in a private hospital yesterday due to NHS failure / lack of funding etc. first time we have used private for years, I feel the service has gone down a lot in that time. I don't blame you for going abroad, you obviously researched it and probably saved a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I can say it's worth all the trouble. I've lost 5.5 stone so far since my op on 15 Nov. 2013 and if anything at all comes if it other than the fact that my daughters will have me to walk them down the aisle it would be a bonus. It may seem like an "easy out" to some but let me tell you it is not. It's a tool, an effective tool, but a tool nonetheless. I was put straight by my cardiologist who told me your heart is sound now but in 5 years we will be having a different conversation if you don't make some drastic changes. On top of that he told me that with my Rheumatoid Arthritis that if he put me on an exercise program to lose the weight that I would be crippled and they wouldn't give me joint replacements since I'm too young (37) currently. Since the op, I'll hike 3 or 4 miles with no complaint. Pretty soon I'll be able to out walk my mates on a rough shoot who would have left me in the dust in prior years. It's a new lease on life and I wish ANYONE who undertakes it nothing but the best and will gladly welcome them in to the club! How big where you before the op mate? And did you get it on the nhs or have to go abroad again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I am in that mid position where I need to lose a couple of stone but cannot justify and do not need the op as can happily do 8- 10 miles ( at a steady pace) but do struggle to lose the last 2 stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmooney Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 How big where you before the op mate? And did you get it on the nhs or have to go abroad again? I was 349 lbs before the op and I'm 5 months out and I'm at 270 lbs now. My surgeon predicts I should get to 235 lbs with little trouble. I'm actually aiming for 215 just to see if I can do it... I'm in the US so no NHS :-) but my health insurance covered it. With the final bills having come in it'll be about $600 ( about 350 Quid) out of pocket for me. The op was the cheap part. The bill for the 3 days in hospital afterward was nearly $56,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyD Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Good luck and well done Bi9johnny and Jmooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'm in the US so no NHS :-) but my health insurance covered it. With the final bills having come in it'll be about $600 ( about 350 Quid) out of pocket for me. The op was the cheap part. The bill for the 3 days in hospital afterward was nearly $56,000. Ouch. What do people without insurance do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmooney Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Ouch. What do people without insurance do? They generally don't have ops unless something life threatening comes up. The cost is a bit inflated due to the game the medical providers and insurance companies play. Usually the provider knows what it wants to get paid for something and it know what percentage the insurance will pay so they bill accordingly. For example, if a Dr. wants $2000 for something and they know the insurance usually pays only 25% of the cost they bill the insurance $8000 and then they get their $2000. Most insurances also make participating providers agree that they will accept whatever the insurance pays as full payment for the service so the Dr doesn't pass on the other cost to the patient, except in cases where the patient is responsible for a certain percentage out of pocket. In that case the insurance might give the Dr. $1900 and the Dr. bill the patient for the remaining $100. Sound corrupt and inefficient? Well, it kind of is to some extent. Now a days though you have to have insurance (the Obamacare you might have heard of) because many people didn't and didn't have access to healthcare. The costs haven't really gone down but the government is subsidizing the cost for people based on their income level. There are government benefit programs that are available too. Most common thing here is to get insurance through your employer. They pay part of the cost as an employee benefit and you pay part of the cost. I pay about $320/month to cover myself, my wife, and my two daughters for medical, dental, and vision coverage. I used to pay nothing out of pocket but now pay about 5% of the costs out of pocket up to $5000/year. The increase was due to the new healthcare laws and the cost of implementing them since students can stay on their parent's insurance until 26 as long as a full time student (use to be 22) and other things that employers have to do and offer now under the new laws. I don't pretend to understand how all this is working with the new laws and such but I am glad that more people have access to healthcare now. Good luck and well done Bi9johnny and Jmooney CHeers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 They generally don't have ops unless something life threatening comes up. What if you have something life threatening but don't have insurance and can't afford to pay out of pocket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Ouch. What do people without insurance do? Go on a diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmooney Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 What if you have something life threatening but don't have insurance and can't afford to pay out of pocket? Most hospitals have programs to deal with this, especially the hospitals with a religious affiliation. You'll get the op you need but you'll also get some of the bills after the fact. Hence the new laws requiring people to have insurance because people's lives would be saved medically but then ruined financially in the aftermath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Thanks for the contributions to this post fellas, I am currently on R&R in wales at my lodge but back at my gp on Tuesday . My start weight was 25&1/2 stone and pre op I got down to 23-3 and first week post op 22.3 so see what happens tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Just a quick update I am currently 6 weeks post op and down 35 lb and feel excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Just a quick update I am currently 6 weeks post op and down 35 lb and feel excellent Well done mate glad to hear that you are feeling well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 It's something I've been thinking about for a while, I may be 6' 5-1/2" but my weight is a constant 21-1/2st which too heavy, the only time I lost any weight was due to stress over the 3 month nightmare we had moving house but that got put back on again :( and now coming up to being 58 I really need to sort this out. Problems with very bad Arthritis in both knees and hips and one good arm means most exercise is a non-starter, add to that being diabetic and having chronic IBS makes loosing weight by diet extremely difficult as I have a limited range of foods that I can tolerate in any amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Good on ya big fella, you take care and rest you big oaf lol Glad to hear your on the mend, You have my upmost respect for trying your best to keep the weight down,(and going above and beyond dieting) Good show , the grandson will have his daft grandad around for years to come( I don't know wether that is a good or bad thing ha ha) Only jesting, Keep it up pal, RESPECT Atb Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Well done mate glad to hear that you are feeling well. Feeling better all the time mate cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 It's something I've been thinking about for a while, I may be 6' 5-1/2" but my weight is a constant 21-1/2st which too heavy, the only time I lost any weight was due to stress over the 3 month nightmare we had moving house but that got put back on again :( and now coming up to being 58 I really need to sort this out. Problems with very bad Arthritis in both knees and hips and one good arm means most exercise is a non-starter, add to that being diabetic and having chronic IBS makes loosing weight by diet extremely difficult as I have a limited range of foods that I can tolerate in any amount. I would recommend this to anyone and if you research it like I did you can see that a lot of people do it to relieve other ailments particularly diabetes, joint problems high bp and so on ..... If you are considering it give me a pm with your number and I'll ring you and you can ask anything you want mate nothing is taboo for me with this Good on ya big fella, you take care and rest you big oaf lol Glad to hear your on the mend, You have my upmost respect for trying your best to keep the weight down,(and going above and beyond dieting) Good show , the grandson will have his daft grandad around for years to come( I don't know wether that is a good or bad thing ha ha) Only jesting, Keep it up pal, RESPECT Atb Flynny Haha ya numpty I'll be around for a long time now, got a new granddaughter two weeks back so now double trouble , hope you well pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I would recommend this to anyone and if you research it like I did you can see that a lot of people do it to relieve other ailments particularly diabetes, joint problems high bp and so on ..... If you are considering it give me a pm with your number and I'll ring you and you can ask anything you want mate nothing is taboo for me with this Haha ya numpty I'll be around for a long time now, got a new granddaughter two weeks back so now double trouble , hope you well pal congrats on the granddaughter mate At flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 just a quick update fellas i am currently 4&1/2 stone down on my weight since april and can now eat whatever i want but in very small portions ..... life is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Blimey that's good going. What was your start weight, and if you have one, what is your target weight? Edit: just seen you started @ 25.5st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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