secret-squirrel Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Hi lads . I went out shooting the other day . Was driving down a hedge row next to a field in some say ft long grass and bang . Out of no we're I had driven over a decent sized log with the front left wheel . Didn't want to risk ripping my exhaust or other vitals off so I reversed back off it.BAD MOVE .YES YOU ARE ALL ALOUD TO LAUGH . I ripped my bumper off that's not the issue This is what has happend to my intercooler . So my question is . Can I move this . And would it matter if the pipes were coming out the bottom rather than the top . Here's a pic of a new one of eBay to show you what I mean . Thanks Edited May 6, 2014 by secret-squirrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret-squirrel Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) For some reason it won't let me upload a pic .Here's a. EBay listing were you can clearly see how it is mounted (pipes coming out of the top ) . Would it matter if I flip the inter cooler over and have the pipes out the bottom ?? Edited May 6, 2014 by Dunkield embedded picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I am not up to speed on intercoolers! But I would assume it is designed to fill the whole rad with gravity as a factor! If you invert it, While you will still get flow! Surely it will not fill the rad? you are relying on the oil to FILL the rad before exiting the opposite side! Inverted it will just flow between the two? Just MY thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 It's a turbo Intercooler Mr Geordie , it matters not where or how it's mounted but it's designed to be in a good airflow position or your power and mpg will suffer, scooby so and pajero so have them mounted horizontally on top of the engine bay which is why they all have a scoop in the bonnet to force air over it , its sole purpose is to cool the flow of compressed air from the turbo to the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidawson Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 along as the pipes don't get kinked you should be ok as just needs good airflow I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret-squirrel Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Thanks lads !!! I was planning on trying to mount it behind the grill . As far to the side as possible so it does not obstruct the rad too much . I will definatly be looking into this . Iv just thort "twistedsanity" my mates l200 has it on top of the engine like you say . Poor design by Ford being so low to the ground on a "4x4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Be careful if moving it to a different position, if the pipes end up being shorter or longer or a different diameter then you may get a lot of lag and running issues. Also a different sized intercooler might cause the above issues. I went for a larger one on my evo and needed a map tweak . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 As everyone has said mate doesnt matter where or how it is located. Ensure the pipes are the same size and ideally somewhere it wont get to hot. Its basically a radiator for the air going in the engine. Cooler = bigger bang = more power. Hope that helps mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 It's a turbo Intercooler Mr Geordie , it matters not where or how it's mounted but it's designed to be in a good airflow position or your power and mpg will suffer, scooby so and pajero so have them mounted horizontally on top of the engine bay which is why they all have a scoop in the bonnet to force air over it , its sole purpose is to cool the flow of compressed air from the turbo to the engine Like I say I am not up on intercoolers I must be mistaking it for an oil cooler or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Just make sure it gets a good feed of cool air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret-squirrel Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I'm considering l200 bonnet scoope styling . The pipes would be around 2ft shorter tho ! . Could I buy a l200 intercooler ? And make a new bracket and get busy with a grinder ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedster Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 You never want the intercooler pipes at the bottom! Any oil in there would be fed into the engine and you may get a runaway, trust me, that's not a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 I have in the past removed them completely with very little affect.if you look at most of the low mounted ones on 4x4s they are completely blocked with mud on the outside so get no airflow anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret-squirrel Posted May 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 I have in the past removed them completely with very little affect.if you look at most of the low mounted ones on 4x4s they are completely blocked with mud on the outside so get no airflow anyway. That is exactly what mine looked like until that tree stump took a shinning to it . Last night I completly removers my bottom plastic bumper . And I'm now looking at a retro fitted landy winch bumper . Any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 At low speeds they will make little difference (or if they are clogged with mud) ,however if you tow or use a lot of main roads you will notice its missing , the turbo gets extremley hot when running under boost (boost is not achieved at low rpm) and the air that passes through the turbo will become heated as a result of this which is why inter coolers are fitted to bring the temp back down , the colder and more dense the air entering the engine the bigger the bang hence more power , most cars would run better early morning when the ambient air is denser and colder than they will stuck in traffic on a hot day, never heard of mounting it the wrong way causing a run on but when I was a plant fitter it was a problem with Diesel engines, when the rings got worn the engine would suck up oil from the sump and use it as fuel the end result was an engine at full rpm despite turning everything off (diesels will run with no electrical power) quite a scary scenario as the only way to stop them was to man up and get close enough to shove a tennis ball in the air Intake and starve it of oxygen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret-squirrel Posted May 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 At low speeds they will make little difference (or if they are clogged with mud) ,however if you tow or use a lot of main roads you will notice its missing , the turbo gets extremley hot when running under boost (boost is not achieved at low rpm) and the air that passes through the turbo will become heated as a result of this which is why inter coolers are fitted to bring the temp back down , the colder and more dense the air entering the engine the bigger the bang hence more power , most cars would run better early morning when the ambient air is denser and colder than they will stuck in traffic on a hot day, never heard of mounting it the wrong way causing a run on but when I was a plant fitter it was a problem with Diesel engines, when the rings got worn the engine would suck up oil from the sump and use it as fuel the end result was an engine at full rpm despite turning everything off (diesels will run with no electrical power) quite a scary scenario as the only way to stop them was to man up and get close enough to shove a tennis ball in the air Intake and starve it of oxygen I do quite a bit of main road driving . So what your saying is . Just change location . I'm defo thinking of mounting it how the l200 has it . Under the bonnet with a scoop . My mate owns a body shop and he has said emits easily do able . (The scoop) . And he said I'm sure we can sort some brackets out under the bonnet to move the intercooler . This is when I thought of just buying a l200 intercooler and scoop ?? . Would it matter if the pipes were smaller length ..Because if I mount it under the bonnet it will probably use around 2ft less intercooler piping ?? I wish I could upload pictures !!!!!!!! It's doing my head in . Or I could show you lot what I mean . I don't mo why the option has gone to add a "photo" http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/321380140688?nav=SEARCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Smaller length pipes would result in the boost pressure getting to the engine quicker so would reduce turbo lag, it would also mean that the cooling effect gained from the long pipes would be less . Somebody mentioned earlier about needing a remap but I can't see it would be nessecary for your application , provided it gets airflow , doesn't obstruct the cooling for anything else ( like the radiator) and fits I can't see why you couldn't get an l200 scoop and cooler and use it instead , sounds like an obvious modification but would probably be easier to fit some kind of guard around the existing one to prevent it getting battered again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret-squirrel Posted May 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Smaller length pipes would result in the boost pressure getting to the engine quicker so would reduce turbo lag, it would also mean that the cooling effect gained from the long pipes would be less . Somebody mentioned earlier about needing a remap but I can't see it would be nessecary for your application , provided it gets airflow , doesn't obstruct the cooling for anything else ( like the radiator) and fits I can't see why you couldn't get an l200 scoop and cooler and use it instead , sounds like an obvious modification but would probably be easier to fit some kind of guard around the existing one to prevent it getting battered again? If I could upload a picture you would see . It's the worse designed place to put something as fragile as a intercooler. It's only say a ft of the ground . And has nothing else around it apart from the sump guard behind it . Makes me thinknford didn't Reli want you to get there rangers to dirty !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian g Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) i bought am after market one off ebay think it was 40 quid its alot bigger than the standard one and its mounted higher up as well works fine for me Edited May 11, 2014 by ian g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret-squirrel Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) i bought am after market one off ebay think it was 40 quid its alot bigger than the standard one and its mounted higher up as well works fine for me Iv been looking at shogun 2.8 intercoolers seem a little bigger . But there all at around 65£ . Any ideas what you searched on the bay to find yours? And how was it to fit ? Any pics would be a great help !! Thanks Edited May 11, 2014 by secret-squirrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian g Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 just search universal intercoolers theres loads on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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