LeadWasp Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I still can't quite believe what I heard just now on BBC News 24 as Jen Psaki (spokesperson US Dept. of State) was questioned about further US sanctions against Russia. As the US tries to halt the violence in Ukraine one questioner's sole concern was whether sanctions would interfere with the ability of US citizens to buy AK47's. Yeeeehaaaaawwwwww! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 It his the import of Russian firearms has just been restricted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I know but whether you can a banana mag runner is kinda not on the radar of real world worries during a crisis! I bet that guy doesn't own a passport (one of the 2/3 that don't). She was asked "As far as you are aware, the ability of the American consumers to purchase semi-automatic rifles from Kalashnikov had not been affected - is that correct?" I loved the look of 'dear God' that rolled across her face as she replied " I can check that level of specificity and see if there's a direct impact". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I guess we can laugh all we like at the red neck isolationist attitude but they are still the ones who still have the rights we lost in 1988 and 1997. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chacotawas Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Amen to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Are they still made in Russia? The design was manufactured all over and replaced many years ago for the Russian army ak74 iirc. China still make them? More of an issue for Remington I would have thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy1146 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Importation only effects assembled guns. They still have US companies making AK's and they can still import parts kits and assemble them at home. And as said above atleast they still have their guns guarunteed by the 2nd amendment. Unlike here where everyone seems to believe banning everything is the answer to all the countries problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I guess we can laugh all we like at the red neck isolationist attitude but they are still the ones who still have the rights we lost in 1988 and 1997. shooter The differences in legislation weren't the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The differences in legislation weren't the point. I think they have the right idea, why worry about and stick your nose into everyone esles business. If western countries and spent time worrying about their own problems for the last 50 years instead of trying to fix the world we would be much better off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I think they have the right idea, why worry about and stick your nose into everyone esles business. If western countries and spent time worrying about their own problems for the last 50 years instead of trying to fix the world we would be much better off Really? You think the usa have less problems than us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I guess we can laugh all we like at the red neck isolationist attitude but they are still the ones who still have the rights we lost in 1988 and 1997. Damn right mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Really? You think the usa have less problems than us?where did I say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy1146 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 always thought statistics proved per population we do have more problems that the US when it came to violent crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 always thought statistics proved per population we do have more problems that the US when it came to violent crime All depends how 'violent crime' is defined. There isn't a worldwide standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 always thought statistics proved per population we do have more problems that the US when it came to violent crime Produce them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Produce them... Why don't you produce statistics to prove your point. always thought statistics proved per population we do have more problems that the US when it came to violent crime I have read and heard this quite extensivly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 always thought statistics proved per population we do have more problems that the US when it came to violent crime Isn't Vatican City one of the highest crimes per population? There's some grammar in there somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Isn't Vatican City one of the highest crimes per population? There's some grammar in there somewhere... No doubt the perfect illustration of the phrase ' power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. that is what you can not trust any organisation, government or private business that has power over us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 No doubt the perfect illustration of the phrase ' power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. that is what you can not trust any organisation, government or private business that has power over us. I think the point was that for a very small population, any crime, per capita, pushes the statistics up. VC has a population of around 1,000 people so ten crimes committed means 1 for every 100 people*. Thats like having 800,000 here a year, which I don't think is the case * large tourist population, so pickpocketing etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I think the point was that for a very small population, any crime, per capita, pushes the statistics up. VC has a population of around 1,000 people so ten crimes committed means 1 for every 100 people*. Thats like having 800,000 here a year, which I don't think is the case * large tourist population, so pickpocketing etc. I think it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that all tourists are pick pockets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I think it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that all tourists are pick pockets Either you're being deliberately obstreperous or truly don't understand that the point I am making is anywhere with lots of tourists attracts criminals to prey on them. The actual crimes committed by residents of VC would be pretty low, I imagine, but there is little to stop other criminals entering the country and committing crimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 and meanwhile the bodies of the dead, innocent victims, lie undetected and uncared for in a field of sunflowers. Forget the argument its not really important is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nderfel Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 and meanwhile the bodies of the dead, innocent victims, lie undetected and uncared for in a field of sunflowers. Forget the argument its not really important is it ? Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 and meanwhile the bodies of the dead, innocent victims, lie undetected and uncared for in a field of sunflowers. Forget the argument its not really important is it ? Precisely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Why don't you produce statistics to prove your point. I have read and heard this quite extensivly Murder rates 2011 http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/interactive/2011/oct/10/unitednations-development-data Try these: http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf Scotland is top for assault, Mexico top for murder, Belgium is top for robbery (miss poirot apparently), Australia is top for rape... Burglary its Denmark..... vehicle theft its Sweden! (who knew!) Poland looks like a great place to live.. Only in assault rates are england and wales above USA IIRC (from assault rape and homicide) robbery is higher burglary about the same (based on recent figures) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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