pestcontrol1 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 i am about to start loading some 410 cartridges up and was wondering what shot size most people like to use mainly for pigeons Cheers PC1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 What length and shot weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 76mm with a rto and around 16-19gram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Assuming your .410 is tightly choked like nearly every other .410 in existence, 16g of #7 will do the job nicely. #8 will limit you to about 30-35 yards and #6 and larger shot will make the pattern suffer - unacceptably in my book. I don't use anything larger than #7 in a .410. The above combination should do to 40 yards. If you're happy to limit the range of your shots a bit, a #7½ or #8 may work better for you - in the end it's about how you shoot and how close you can persuade the birds to come to you and striking the balance based on that. Edited October 17, 2014 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 as for choke i can play about with it as its a multi choke gun but like you say the 410 performs better with a tight choke. I have found a recipe for the 73mm hull that i have using psb powder and 16gram with a rto finish but was unsure what shot size in the 73-76mm 6.5 to 7.5 is looking Favorited at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I prefer 7.5 for pigeons in factory .410 loads. If I was to reload, I would use 7 or 7.5, a good balance between pattern density and pellet energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Sensible ranges only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Nothing over 35yards and far better is keeping things under 30 yards. Pattern plates don't tell lies and lucky three pellet strikes cannot be relied upon. I have seen clays cracked into three or four bits at prodigious range but for DRT kills you need to respect its limitations and learn to enjoy those limits not stretch them IMO. Using a .410 like a 12 is like trying to tow a caravan with a city car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Sensible ranges only. FC what size shot and load do you prefer in the 410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Nothing over 35yards and far better is keeping things under 30 yards. Pattern plates don't tell lies and lucky three pellet strikes cannot be relied upon. I have seen clays cracked into three or four bits at prodigious range but for DRT kills you need to respect its limitations and learn to enjoy those limits not stretch them IMO. Using a .410 like a 12 is like trying to tow a caravan with a city car lol it depends how big your caravan is Aid Edmonson pulled his with a little mini i shot 28 bore for 8-9 years and have shot a 410 husher for a while but i never bought any cartridges for it or reloaded any as it came with 500 and the i had 300 handed to me but they were all the same shot size #6 and had some cracking kills with them. But now i am loading my own i have more choice of shot size as i like #5 but i know the pattern is going to be sparse and possibly very gappy so i would sooner drop down in shot size and have a fuller pattern. I just thought that i would get the pw small bore massive opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 2.4mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Anyone used PSB2 in the 410 i have a load on a sheet its showing a very good speed not loaded any up yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 psb2 and .410 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 psb2 and .410 ? yes it looks a good load pm on way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) yes it looks a good load pm on way if it a C&G load with 16 grams in a three inch it depends which one you are looking at there are two on my old disc one fits one does not Edited October 21, 2014 by UK fowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 the H-21 fitted but the H-33 was way off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Powder too fast look for some sp3 21 gram loads Deershooter I tried psb3 and techna N in 16 gram both ripped the end off the cartridge Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Powder too fast look for some sp3 21 gram loads Deershooter I tried psb3 and techna N in 16 gram both ripped the end off the cartridge Deershooter Iv not got any powder as yet for the 410 but when i went and got some more psb2 i picked a data sheet up and noticed that there was a 16g 410 load that looked good on paper !!! good speed and reasonable pressure @ 668 bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Proper .410 powders are Vectan SP3 Winchester 296 Hodgden 110 Alliant 2400 Little Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 as for choke i can play about with it as its a multi choke gun but like you say the 410 performs better with a tight choke. I have found a recipe for the 73mm hull that i have using psb powder and 16gram with a rto finish but was unsure what shot size in the 73-76mm 6.5 to 7.5 is looking Favorited at the moment I disagree regarding .410 performing better with a tight choke, I personally think 1/4 is ideal with heavier loads in .410 full choke is too tight. I would go for 19g no7.5 through 1/4-1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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