Alf Catherall Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 A photo of a male hybrid Gos x Blacksparrowhawk I hunted a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moor man Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Beautiful bird..........what size game did he take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Beautiful bird..........what size game did he take? I hunted him on game birds wild greys and pheasants he was dynamite on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 he looks magnificent, a question Alf, we have reputedly the largest population of golden eagles in europe we also have sea eagles and lots of buzzards and ravens, would it be safe to fly a hawk here or would it be mobbed/ attacked by them, cheers IG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 he looks magnificent, a question Alf, we have reputedly the largest population of golden eagles in europe we also have sea eagles and lots of buzzards and ravens, would it be safe to fly a hawk here or would it be mobbed/ attacked by them, cheers IG In America falconer lose a lot of falcons to eagles here in the UK buzzards are becoming a problem as there spreading far and wide. If there are eagles on your ground there will always be a danger although they tend to only do damage when your hawk is on the ground on a kill in the air there relatively safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 She looks mainly gos, saw a fella flying a one-eyed black spar at pheasant many years ago. Didn't stop it catching them! Like to see what she looks like after her first moult, pretty impressive I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 She looks mainly gos, saw a fella flying a one-eyed black spar at pheasant many years ago. Didn't stop it catching them! Like to see what she looks like after her first moult, pretty impressive I reckon. Possibly on that photo he did look something like a gos although he took after the Blackspar side in the flesh. I have uploaded a couple more photos that might show the BS in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 One more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hi Thanks for posting great looking bird Always admire the time and patients of the falconer must take hours to train them All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hi Thanks for posting great looking bird Always admire the time and patients of the falconer must take hours to train them All the best Of Thanks Yes falconry can eat into your time a bit and it's nice to have an understanding wife! Not an ideal sport for everyone but for those that can make the time it's very rewarding. There are varying degrees of time needed to train different types of hawks some of the falcons train easily with little time needed while some of the accipiter's need a lot more time due to their nervous highly strung temperament. With the introduction of imprints/ hawks raised as very young chicks in human contact until there fully grown and ready for hunting the training part is very quick although the time spent raising them from chicks to birds on the wing can take well over a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) In America falconer lose a lot of falcons to eagles here in the UK buzzards are becoming a problem as there spreading far and wide. If there are eagles on your ground there will always be a danger although they tend to only do damage when your hawk is on the ground on a kill in the air there relatively safe. I would love to be involved in this sport but I seem to remember your other thread where you said peregrines are fetching a couple of thousand I would be a bit miffed if my best falcon was last seen disappearing over the hill in the clutches of an Eagle, however I am finding myself being strangely drawn to the sport, I might be PMing you ! Edited December 4, 2014 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 One more. he looks more like an immature black spar in this pic, but when he moults, will look smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 he looks more like an immature black spar in this pic, but when he moults, will look smart He has moulted out these photos were taken a few years ago. He's now in a breeding program with another falconer giving semen for AI / artificial insemination he's produced some nice young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I would love to be involved in this sport but I seem to remember your other thread where you said peregrines are fetching a couple of thousand I would be a bit miffed if my best falcon was last seen disappearing over the hill in the clutches of an Eagle, however I am finding myself being strangely drawn to the sport, I might be PMing you ! Apart from time and knowledge you also have to have access to quarry the type of game you have on your land could dictate the hawk you hunt. There is no use wanting to hunt a peregrine if all your land holds is rabbits or ground game. Loads of variables to having success as a falconer you have to weigh up your options before you start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Apart from time and knowledge you also have to have access to quarry the type of game you have on your land could dictate the hawk you hunt. There is no use wanting to hunt a peregrine if all your land holds is rabbits or ground game. Loads of variables to having success as a falconer you have to weigh up your options before you start. Ok mostly would be rabbits with perhaps woodcock, duck, grouse, greylag! red deer! although im guessing you would need a pretty hefty falcon for the last two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Catherall Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Ok mostly would be rabbits with perhaps woodcock, duck, grouse, greylag! red deer! although im guessing you would need a pretty hefty falcon for the last two If you have woodcock, duck, grouse your into the gamehawking with falcons. You don't need a pure peregrine one of the hybrids can be picked up for less than 1K a nice male Gyr x peregrine would be just the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 If you have woodcock, duck, grouse your into the gamehawking with falcons. You don't need a pure peregrine one of the hybrids can be picked up for less than 1K a nice male Gyr x peregrine would be just the ticket. thanks for that would the gyr x peregrine be ok for rabbits as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich1985 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I would love to see him work. I put a post on here asking if there was any falconers that wanted a day on my perm after pheasant at the end of the season.... No takers! Offer still there if any one reading this and is interested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Interesting, a fertile hybrid. I guess because both species are closely related? He has moulted out these photos were taken a few years ago. He's now in a breeding program with another falconer giving semen for AI / artificial insemination he's produced some nice young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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