Dunkield Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 I got to the range on Saturday, and was able to do trials with my first home laods. Conditions looked great, after the rain I was ready to cancel (having spent a morning laying in 3" of water on a previous trip :blink: ) it was sunny cold, but very windy - never mind, can't have it all. I tried to be as 'scientific' as possible, logging all the loads etc so I had some dat to go home with. Having stuck a factory round through the gun I worked my way slowly through the loads I had prepared, I had 3 of each from the bottom load to just short of the top, in .5 grn increments. As some of the books had predicted, the better groups came from the lower end loads on this ocassion, as the seesion went on the groups opened out a lot, but having given both guns a good cleaning at the range I was able to bring them back in again - but I had run out of home loads by then. So I need to return and retest some of the higher end loads again Overall I was pretty happy, neither gun exploded, which was a bonus. And I will definitly not go out on the lash until 2am the night before next time I do this next time :blink: Anyway... The best 6.5 groups so far at 100 yards were: 44.5grns: and 44.0 grns: Suprised me how far off from factory rounds the POI was as well, my gun is zero'd to hit (or at least worry!) that black square with Federal 140's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Overall I was pretty happy, neither gun exploded, which was a bonus. Always a bonus, eh stuart - nice groups Cheers AndyCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 The .223 story was much the same, but I guess I wasn't leaving enough time between shots, or groups of shots - those thin CZ barrels heat up really quickly, especially with a mod hanging off the end I kept getting groups of groups, if that makes sense.. 23 grn: 23.5 grn Again the shots are way off the equivalent factory POI, so if I can, I need to shoot some over a chrono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 That is good shooting and far more than adequate for field use. Keep the loads a grain or two below max for longer barrel life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 try staggering in smaller amounts, e.g .2 grains, .5 a grain is a large amount, you could have completely passed the sweet spot by. not looking bad though mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex lad Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Stuart, That's got to be the biggest five pence piece i have ever seen :o Looking good so far Saticfying isn't it working up a load :blink: :blink: What ingredients are you using??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Way to go Stuart .......Are you running a clean barrel now :blink: What loads are you trying on the .223 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Keep us informed eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Still got your eyesight and all your fingers. Job done then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 try staggering in smaller amounts, e.g .2 grains, .5 a grain is a large amount, you could have completely passed the sweet spot by. not looking bad though mate Thanks Nick, I will give that a go, I am knocking some more for another a go in a couple of weeks time. What ingredients are you using??? .223 is: Federal brass CCI std primer Vit 133 powder Hornaday A max 52grn Loads are as per the pictures 6.5 is: Federal brass CCI std primer Vit 160 powder Sierra Gameking 140grn Again loads as the pictures Way to go Stuart .......Are you running a clean barrel now What loads are you trying on the .223 ? As above Ive. And yes, I never thought I would say this but.... I will be cleaning both guns between groups next time :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Keep the loads a grain or two below max for longer barrel life. The max loads, according to VihtaVuori are: .223 25.0 grn 6.5x55 46.7 grn So those are well in. I would like to chrono the 6.5 load as it used mainly on reds, so maintaining the energy level is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Thats good grouping Stuart. :unsure: Cleaning is good ha? Good luck and keep us up to date. Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Federal brassCCI std primer Vit 133 powder Hornaday A max 52grn Loads are as per the pictures I will be cleaning both guns between groups next time :unsure: I think you already know but Mine and dead Ducks loads are very similar with outstanding results 24.2 grn vit 133 cci benchrest primor federal brass 50 grn hornady v- max Give it a go ,you never know Hopefully if there is no torrential rain I'm on the range tommorrow and zeroing that leupold in so I'll post some 3 shot 1 holers (.223 that is ) ............Come close with a slightly mashed hole on a couple of occasions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Hopefully if there is no torrential rain I'm on the range tommorrow and zeroing that leupold in so I'll post some 3 shot 1 holers (.223 that is ) :unsure: ............Come close with a slightly mashed hole on a couple of occasions The 23grn group above has 2 shots through the same hole. My problem is now with the swaro scope I can see that at 100yards, so the pressure is on to drop the 3rd shot through the same hole and the result is a pulled shot not that it really matters, but it would be nice to get all 3 in... Weather is absolutely perfect down here today Ive, you may get lucky tomorrow Does anyone know the difference between the std and benchrest CCI primers? I assumed the BR were just a bit more consistant, but I couldn't get any locally so went with the normal ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 img] 23.5 grn That ,s what I can slightly mashed Stuart :unsure: ........Wrong pic ......It's suppose to be the one with 5 holes in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Try 22gn of N133 with a 55gn v-max. That load thumbnails consistently at 100yards with Lorraines Remy 700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Try 22gn of N133 with a 55gn v-max. That load thumbnails consistently at 100yards with Lorraines Remy 700. Sounds good Dave (depending on whether you are a cobbler or not, of course :o ) That ,s what I can slightly mashed Stuart ........Wrong pic ......It's suppose to be the one with 5 holes in Correct Ive The top picture has 5 shots in it, I only saw 4 at first and wondered where the other one went :unsure: Reminded me of my shooting of the 'static fox' at the BSRC. When walking back from counting up my score the bloke said, "good news and bad news..." "The good news is you got a few bulls, the bad news is one them was in the target next to yours and doesn't count" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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