Underdog Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Gents. I want to return to a good springer. My last one was a hw95. Good but for my awful off hand. Off hand shooting is important to me. So, how does the 97 shoot off hand? Is it flighty or pretty stable? Is slinging one straight forward? Is the silencer effective on them? Thanks. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinybum Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 i have both 95 and 97, the 95 can be a bit lively in the wrong hands but i find the 97 is far more stable with the extra weight and shoots off hand fine, it is even better since having a sandwell field sports tune done, fitting a sling is no problem at all using the under lever, just make sure you slide it far enough forward to miss the stock on cocking, are silencers ever that good on a springer but must do some damping. I rate the 97 highly but watch out for none Hull Cartridge imports. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 They are a heavy gun , shoot fine off hand if you can handy the weight , I went from a 95 to a 97kt and it is less jumpy . Mine too has been tuned by SFS , putting a sling on is easy with the correct fitting for the underlever. The silencer is ok but perhaps not as good as the one on the 95 , but then I think a silencer on a springer is little more than a gimmick . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 The weight thing, do they carry well when shouldered? Thanks gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 The weight thing, do they carry well when shouldered? Thanks gents. To be honest mine does not usually need to be carried far but I have no issue with it when I have , I know your shooting is rather different to mine though so no idea how you may find it . Its a pity your not local or you could have had a try with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Thanks mate. Now, which cal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 whatever you do get, have it tuned up. i`ve had 97 and 80 venom / vmach tuned, shoots like a pcp, good honest airguns. fps variation, none, recoil - if not slightly snappier but not to any detrimental effect. i went to a hw80 years ago, i`ve had fx2000-sold for `97. bought a rapid MFR, sold and bought a hw80. i have never actually gone back to pcp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thanks mate. Now, which cal? Mine is .177 which i prefer over .22 each have their merits so what your happiest with , if you want to buy new you also have a .20 option ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Shot 177 for years, went back to 22 for years. They all good. Just can't decide! .20 sounds interesting. I probably would make my own spring guide for it as I use to for my hw80's. Makes all the difference a snug guide. Thanks chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 UD ,, cant understand why you want another springer,, the HW80 in my eyes was the best springer ever built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 UD ,, cant understand why you want another springer,, the HW80 in my eyes was the best springer ever built I guess that depends what you want , the 97 will out shoot the 80 accuracy wise all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 UD ,, cant understand why you want another springer,, the HW80 in my eyes was the best springer ever built Simple. To many seals in a PCP.I like a self contained power plant and the air is all around me and free :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I guess that depends what you want , the 97 will out shoot the 80 accuracy wise all day long. in who,s hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 in who,s hands How many HFT do you see won with a HW80 , its a fine gun but put them both in the hands of someone who is capable and the 97 will shoot the nuts off it as will the 98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) I've had my 97k from new for a few years now, first thing I did was have some fun and blast a couple of tins of pellets through it so it was bedded in. Out shoots me all day every day now, got a sling on mine and it does help if you do a lot of walking about. There is a thread on hwoc adult moderators, surprised me the difference they do make. Adult moderators??? Darn auto correct... About moderators. Edited April 12, 2015 by manthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Gents, which size sling swivel up front do I need? I just got a 97 second hand (boy they are heavy, but stable!). The cocking lever measures 14mm but I only see 13.5mm and 14.5mm for sale. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I use these for slings: http://ant-supplies.co.uk/Pages/RifleSplitBandSwivelBases.aspx As for how good is the 97/77: https://sites.google.com/site/whfta1/results/2015-results/recoiling-class-results-2015 I saw only one break barrel HW all weekend. The HW underleavers are still the choice of champions. Konceptus do standard moderator innards, but an adapter and extra moderator is still superior with a well tuned and sleeved HW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Sorry cant help , I have had mine years and it was put on with locktite before nipping it up ! If you are stuck give Micheal Tawn airgun supplies a phone and I am sure he will tell you , thats where mine came from but he is showing out of stock at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I use these for slings: http://ant-supplies.co.uk/Pages/RifleSplitBandSwivelBases.aspx As for how good is the 97/77: https://sites.google.com/site/whfta1/results/2015-results/recoiling-class-results-2015 I saw only one break barrel HW all weekend. The HW underleavers are still the choice of champions. Konceptus do standard moderator innards, but an adapter and extra moderator is still superior with a well tuned and sleeved HW. Thanks for posting that , evo I rest my case Seems I am also correct about the HW97 / 77 being a better gun than the Air Arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I had a 97 in 0.22 cal very accurate but also heavy, I found the weight did not help my off hand shooting. The silencer was not very effective on mine. Never put a sling on it so can't help on that one. Hope you get on with yours ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 UD ,, cant understand why you want another springer,, the HW80 in my eyes was the best springer ever built evo Have to agree with you ...... My 97kt is a lovely gun but.... my two early HW 80s are fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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